Feep_FLA

I can't see how the Pats "messed up" on the deal. When you look at the fact that the Colts gave Adam an 11Mill deal, and Vanderjerk gets almost half that (6Mill) with the Boys, doesn't that make you think that maybe, just maybe the Colts overpaid for their new kicker?

Patschick87, I have no doubt the Colts overpaid. I just would have liked to see Adam kicking PATs and FG's for a few more years. I suppose in the end it was too much "cabbage" for a kicker. I can't argue with the logic of letting him go it just bothers me. Like part of the Patriots Mojo is leaving with Willie and Adam.

PatsChick87

Yea, I would have loved to see Adam here too, but it goes both ways and I think Adam was looking to make a move. Gotta have two to tango, ya know?
Besides, the killer to me was the apparent lack of gauranteed money. Now why would the Pats not give that? I'm wondering if Adam's back problems which have cropped up on multiple years may have been a factor for the Pats? As many have already said, we observers will never know the whole story.

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IcyPatriot

I saw that one earlier and i was too darn angry to post it. What a moron that guy is. I copied it to wordpad and saved it...I eagerly await sending it back Adam (DB) Schein.

I can understand when a media person writes a story because it is relevant. But this artivle is so shallow with total lack of any factual evidence it appears he wrote it by using GOOGLE.

His line: Okay, sure...I believe that...99.9% of NFL'ers don't even know this hack....who did he speak to the Gunga Dins on the sidelines???

edgecy

Can you imagine our next kicker? The moment he's called upon to kick a game-winning field goal... the expectation, the burden that will be on his shoulders.

I think losing AV will have a long term impact on this team, he's not just a kicker, IMO. Sure, we can always bring in another kicker, but just think about what he will have to go through when he's on that field and all those things are going through his head, the responsibility, the weights. He's not only trying to kick the GW goal, he's also gotta beat the legacy that AV left behind. That thought alone will bury a lot of kickers out there.

I'd hate to be in his shoes

P.S. This is not a gloom and doom post, just thought it'd be interesting to think about the new guy.

PatsChick87

There's no doubt that Adams shoes will be hard to fill. (Luckly it won't be a full time slot like Tedy's last year). But isn't this the case with every position that opens when a Pro Bowl type player leaves?

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ctpatsfan77

Lightning can hit twice, you know. So, who's to say that the Pats won't sign the next uber-clutch FG kicker?

I'm sure the Pats have done research on every kicker out there, and they'll get somebody who'll at least be the equal of Adam percentagewise. It's the clutchness factor that remains to be seen.

IMO--I think echoing someone here--Adam's replacement will be someone who, quite simply, doesn't give a d**n about trying to fill Adam's shoes.

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edgecy

Well, I believe this case is a little bit more extreme than just that. We're going to have a new kicker who's trying to replace AV. The man is a legend, kicker of two SB game-winner, 19 GW kicks, the legendary Snow Bowl kick... Sure, those are all stats and they don't mean anything, but perception is reality, and the perception is that AV is perhaps one of the, if not greatest, clutch kickers ever in the NFL.

If our kicker turns out to be a rookie.. whew, God bless his soul.

Fanfrom1960

Good point. Somewhat of a corollary: Steve Young got booed by more than a few in San Francisco for years beore those wine soaked fans woke up to the fact that they had another HOFer calling signals. Some would call him Saint Steve for the way he took it. We need a thick skinned, short memory guy with a great foot to come in and follow Adam (Adam II).

PromisedLand

I liked this part: Obviously this fool has never read "Management Secrets of the New England Patriots". This is the way they have operated all along. This is the way that brought them three Super Bowl victories. Don't overpay for big names. Don't fall in love with your own players. Make personnel decisions based on the cold hard facts, not on emotions or a player's popularity with the fans. Instead of using a big chunk of the salary cap on a few stars, give most of it to the "middle class". Have 53 good players rather than 5 great ones and 48 poor ones. Find players who have been underused or misused by their old teams (Vrabel, Patton, for examples). Find players who may not have thrived in some other system but will do well in the Patriots system. It's all in the book.

Really, it's amazing that after 5 years of the BB system some of these writers and a lot of the posters here still don't get it.

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Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

This is why Belichick is where he is...and why you are wherever you are.

Paying that kind of money for a kicker is not smart.

I hope AV chokes on every meaningful kick situation from here on out.

Nothing against him or anything...but...of all the teams to switch to...

He had to go to the "yellowbellies".