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shirtsleeve · 03-04-2006, 08:21 AM

No thanks necessary. The solution is easy.

As the man once said "first we kill the lawyers!"

***pats1*** · 03-04-2006, 08:22 AM

Nah, it's Gene Upshaw. He's a jerk. The players are even saying it.

shirtsleeve · 03-04-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pats1

Nah, it's Gene Upshaw. He's a jerk. The players are even saying it.

Yup, he's the lawyer representing the other lawyers (agents) of the union. The players are just pawns to feed the real unions wealth.

***pats1*** · 03-04-2006, 08:43 AM

Good point.

***Terry Glenn is a cowgirl*** · 03-04-2006, 03:46 PM

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flutie2phelan · 03-04-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve

No thanks necessary. The solution is easy.

As the man once said "first we kill the lawyers!"

That won't work ... they've already passed a law against it.

But watching Brad Kessler, Esquire, deceive and dissemble on ESPN ... reminded me.

Successful entrepreneurs have a rule of thumb. You and your counterpart do the deal ... strictly between the principals - on a business basis, for business reasons. After you've done the deal ... then you both call your lawyers into the room ... tell them the deal ... and instruct the lawyers to write it up right.

THAT is how you get any deal done. Lawyers kill whatever they can.

shirtsleeve · 03-04-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by flutie2phelan

That won't work ... they've already passed a law against it.

But watching Brad Kessler, Esquire, deceive and dissemble on ESPN ... reminded me.

Successful entrepreneurs have a rule of thumb. You and your counterpart do the deal ... strictly between the principals - on a business basis, for business reasons. After you've done the deal ... then you both call your lawyers into the room ... tell them the deal ... and instruct the lawyers to write it up right.

THAT is how you get any deal done. Lawyers kill whatever they can.

Problem is, the management is dealing with a principal that consists entirely of lawyers. The union does not represent the lower 75% of players in the league. It represents the media darling "superstar" players and all of the agents(lawyers). If the player reps were smart, they'd bypass the jerks screwing this up for them, and call for votes on the last proposal from the owners. After they called for a no confidence vote on these said jerks. The thing would be a done deal. 75/25 for.

If the owners were smart, they would establish a minimum for 2008 now, support all of the benefits, increase some minimums, and unilaterally enforce the non contract, including the over crap..er cap..elimination, and excluding any further revenue sharing. This would empower the journeymen players, and permanently squash the ego head pukes and the agents, permanently.

mikey · 03-05-2006, 12:00 AM

Here is the solution:

It's called the 58% solution.

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flutie2phelan · 03-05-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flutie2phelan

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But watching Brad Kessler, Esquire, deceive and dissemble on ESPN ... reminded me.

Successful entrepreneurs have a rule of thumb. You and your counterpart do the deal ... strictly between the principals - on a business basis, for business reasons. After you've done the deal ... then you both call your lawyers into the room ... tell them the deal ... and instruct the lawyers to write it up right.

THAT is how you get any deal done. Lawyers kill whatever they can.

Sunday nite, PFT has this to say about a guy whose first name i bungled ... but got everything else right:

We're also hearing that the problem from the union perspective is NFLPA lawyer Jeffrey Kessler. As one league insider told us (echoing sentiments we heard on Saturday), "If they could just get him out of the room the deal would get done."

***fgssand*** · 03-05-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve

Problem is, the management is dealing with a principal that consists entirely of lawyers. The union does not represent the lower 75% of players in the league. It represents the media darling "superstar" players and all of the agents(lawyers). If the player reps were smart, they'd bypass the jerks screwing this up for them, and call for votes on the last proposal from the owners. After they called for a no confidence vote on these said jerks. The thing would be a done deal. 75/25 for.

If the owners were smart, they would establish a minimum for 2008 now, support all of the benefits, increase some minimums, and unilaterally enforce the non contract, including the over crap..er cap..elimination, and excluding any further revenue sharing. This would empower the journeymen players, and permanently squash the ego head pukes and the agents, permanently.

Shirtsleeve is right here - the players are really getting Skarewed big time here. No, not the top 10-20% of the players, but the rank and file player that needs Vet minimums, insurance and all the benfits that the poison pills will be taking away. Why in the world are the agents and the lawyers being allowed to trump any of the needs of these players?? What a bum deal - no wonder a deal cannot get done here - agents and lawyers - yeesh.