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Old 02-27-2006, 06:46 PM   #1
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With the new CBA seemingly close at hand and the rumors of $100-110 million for the cap also there, my questions are these:

1) Would the Pats ask McGinest to restructure?
2) Would the Pats be able to put an adequate deal together to re-sign Vinatieri?
3) Would the Pats put an adequate deal together to re-sign Givens?
4) Would new deals for Branch, Graham, and Koppen take priority over Adam and David?

My thoughts are this:
1) Yes, the Pats would sign McGinest to an extension that would guarantee he'd retire as a Pat.
2) I think that a deal could be done if Adam was willing to take only 2 mill a year.
3) I think that Givens is all but gone.
4) I think that deals for Branch, Graham and Koppen would be a big priority and would get done sooner rather than later.

I am honestly hoping that Givens gets signed to a huge deal. The Pats getting a 3rd round pick as compensation next year would be nice.
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:55 PM   #2
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I am honestly hoping that Givens gets signed to a huge deal. The Pats getting a 3rd round pick as compensation next year would be nice.
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How would we feel to lose him by merely a few hundred thousand?
Doubt that would happen. Why would he play for a possible 100x crappier team just for a few hundred k?
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I doubt it'll make a big difference to current FA, it'll just up the ante for everyone. Hopefully, though, we could shell out some big $$$ to Seymour and Branch to get those two locked in. As they have a year to go, no-one else can make them a big offer and we can lock those two key pieces in.
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I doubt it'll make a big difference to current FA, it'll just up the ante for everyone. Hopefully, though, we could shell out some big $$$ to Seymour and Branch to get those two locked in. As they have a year to go, no-one else can make them a big offer and we can lock those two key pieces in.
And who will you surround Branch with if you give him all the money? That means you can't sign Givens, leaving Bethel Johnson starting, and McGrew, Musinski, Z. Smith, and Stone as reserves. Givens is needed as a starter. Brown, Davis, Dwight, or Johnson aren't acceptable in that role, and you'd have insufficient funds to find much else in a weak WR F.A. market. A rookie WR starting in the Patriots' system and suceeding? A long shot.
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And who will you surround Branch with if you give him all the money?
I didn't say we'd give him all the money but enough to make him re-sign. I think Givens is gone. I hope we can get a guy like Moulds at a reasonable price but I'm more worried about keeping Branch than about who'll play second fiddle to him.
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And who will you surround Branch with if you give him all the money? That means you can't sign Givens, leaving Bethel Johnson starting, and McGrew, Musinski, Z. Smith, and Stone as reserves. Givens is needed as a starter. Brown, Davis, Dwight, or Johnson aren't acceptable in that role, and you'd have insufficient funds to find much else in a weak WR F.A. market. A rookie WR starting in the Patriots' system and suceeding? A long shot.
Rookie wide outs you say, succeeding? Hmmmmm ever hear of Givens? Branch? Seems like the way to save cap money and use it to spread throughout the team is to do just that - Draft Wide outs that can be coached up easier than most positions.
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Rookie wide outs you say, succeeding? Hmmmmm ever hear of Givens? Branch? Seems like the way to save cap money and use it to spread throughout the team is to do just that - Draft Wide outs that can be coached up easier than most positions.
As a starter. It was Brown and Patten - even some Hayes early - in 2002.
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As a starter. It was Brown and Patten - even some Hayes early - in 2002.
Branch had a decent 43 catches his rookie year. Givens' career high was 65 last year. Yes, Givens is better than a Branch-like rookie but FA has several phases and there's a pretty good chance Belioli will find a competent #2 WR. I'm way more worried about getting Branch locked up than who'll be our #2 guy this year.
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With the new CBA seemingly close at hand and the rumors of $100-110 million for the cap also there, my questions are these:

1) Would the Pats ask McGinest to restructure?
2) Would the Pats be able to put an adequate deal together to re-sign Vinatieri?
3) Would the Pats put an adequate deal together to re-sign Givens?
4) Would new deals for Branch, Graham, and Koppen take priority over Adam and David?

My thoughts are this:
1) Yes, the Pats would sign McGinest to an extension that would guarantee he'd retire as a Pat.
2) I think that a deal could be done if Adam was willing to take only 2 mill a year.
3) I think that Givens is all but gone.
4) I think that deals for Branch, Graham and Koppen would be a big priority and would get done sooner rather than later.

I am honestly hoping that Givens gets signed to a huge deal. The Pats getting a 3rd round pick as compensation next year would be nice.
You forgot using the extra $ to sign Big Sey and FAs. Otherwise, you're on target.

Bye Adam - let someone else overpay you
Bye Givens - thanks for your service and best wishes in the future
Willie - restructure, but here's a nice signing bonu$

P.S. I don't think the cap will go THAT high
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