lorijean

I also agree. The level of distain I have heard this week about Randy is sad. No wonder the man hates the media. How did this "late" info come out anyway? The media makes it sound as though BB had enough and meted out some punishment. That makes no sense to me. I am sure BB disciplines players throughout the season. We just don't hear about it. But we hear about this one?

People get upset that Randy doesn't seem to do the things he used to do. In two months he will be 33. He is not lazy, he is not disinterested. But he is starting to come back to earth folks. Like Bill says, cut him some slack.

The Dynasty

One of the Providence Journal reporters posted it on twitter Wednesday morning and it all went on from there. BB punished 3 other players not just Randy Moss. BB sent a message to the team on Monday saying he wanted to see more dedication, preperation, coming in early and leaving later. When 4 players show up late to the next team meeting obviously action is going to be taken no matter who the 4 players are.

I agree that Moss' performace on the field does show that he is aging. He isnt firing off the ball like he used to and I think his jumping ability has also been effected. With that being said he is still leading the league is receiving yards and 2nd in catches. Hes still getting it done.

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RhodyPatriot

My problem with Moss is his impact on Tom Brady.
Brady led this team to 3 SB's with his favorite receiver on the field being the open receiver. Brady has now morphed into a QB who's throwing picks, some very damaging and game changing, every game when trying to force the ball to Moss. Many believe this is happeneing because Moss must be coddled and Brady must focus in on Moss to "keep his head in the game".
Why should Patriot fans be happy that our QB has changed HIS highly successful game to accomodate Randy Moss?
What the hell has Moss ever won???
It's not hate. It's honest football analysis. There is a big difference.

Satchboogie3

Get your head out of your *****.

Pre-Moss:
95 Games, 21,634 yards, 62% Comp, 7.06 Y/A, 147 TD, 78 INT, .048 TD%, .025 INT%, 88.5 QB Rating
Per game averages: 228 Yards, 1.5 TD, 0.82 INT
Per Season Averages: 3,648 Yards, 24 TD, 13 INT

With-Moss:
28 Games, 8,444 yards, 67% Comp, 8.15 Y/A, 72 TD, 18 INT, .07 TD%, .017 INT%, 108.2 QB Rating
Per Game Averages: 301 Y/G, 2.57 TD, 0.65 INT
Per Season Averages: 4,825 Yards, 41 TD, 10 INT

He is only on Pace for 4,851 Yards, 65.7 comp %, 7.94 Y/A, 29 TD, 13 INT, and a 96.7 QB Rating this year. That's still well above his career average pre-Moss. Saying he throws more picks is not just ridiculous but it's obviously wrong. The stats don't lie, he is throwing FAR LESS picks with Moss/Welker than he ever did before.
I mean, he only had the best single season ever in '07 and is having a above-average (and top 5 QB) year after coming back from a season long injury.

So what they hell are you talking about? Moss has clearly had an impact on Brady... He's made him much MUCH better.

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Update: Well that didn't work out as I had planned. Next year baby, next year 19-0 we go. Next year.

Schmo

1) Randy Moss is having a great year by anyone else's standrads.
2) Even if he has a bad attitude, he is keeping it to himself. When Brady doesn't like something, he yells at others, but that is him being a leader. Moss yells, is he a cancer?
3) I feel Belichick HAD to dismiss Randy from practice. If he didn't, that would create a huge double-standard and go against everything he preaches. For what it's worth, I think Randy's dismissal from practice came with a proverbial *wink* from Belichick... "You are not the problem on this team, Randy, but you know I HAVE to do this."
4) For anyone who doesn't like him, let's put TO, Brandon Marshall or Chad OchoCinco on this team and see how much happier we are. I would guess there would be less production and more drama, but what do I know.

FredFromDartmouth

There is nothing wrong with Moss. He is still an elite player who works hard and studies hard.

The problem is with the jackals in the press such as Felger and Callahan and related douches. Felgy and Callahan seem to have some innate bitterness toward the BB and the Patriots. Almost all their bilious rants about the Patriots have been misguided and mean-spirited.

I don't know if you all caught it but Terry Francona called Felger and smacked him on the air. Fleger was totally humiliated but the next day he was back to his bile and hate.

tanked_as_usual

he's not what some people might call a 'patriot type'

the real problem is that there are some people who are 'off limits' to most in terms of blame like BB himself as well as brady......can't blame them so you have to blame someone else.

there would be no problems for this team if only BB was able to find more than one decent LB in the last 8 years

he needs to thank parcells for the LB's that helped him win 3 SB's (mcginest, johnson, bruschi, phifer

Satchboogie3

A "Patriot" type is someone who does their job, works hard, and is a good lockerroom presence. How does that not all apply to Randy? We've heard that he is one of the leaders on this team. We know he works incredibly hard and he obviously doing his job on the field. Seems like he is a "Patriot" type to me.

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This is the year. We put our failures in the past, it's a new year, a new defense. It's time to prove to the league that the Patriots are back and aren't going anywhere and they will be the last ones standing in Feb.
Update: Well that didn't work out as I had planned. Next year baby, next year 19-0 we go. Next year.

BradyFixesEverything

Randy Moss is doing amazing. He works hard, and luvs the hell out of this team. He's a team captain, and rightfully so. He's been seriously injured and is still leading the league in receiving. He's a beast. There's nothing to question. F everyone who thinks so.

RhodyPatriot

Satch, pull your head out of Randy's ***** and watch the actual games dink. Running up scores on inferior teams week in and week out (2007) to pull stats doesn't quite qualify as becoming a better QB with Randy Moss around. Teams eventually figured the Patriots offense out in '07 and Moss did jack crap in the playoffs that year. He's a disappearing act this year and Brady is killing this team with costly picks trying to force the ball to his binky. Try watching the actual games and then analyze what you see. This offense can't score in the 2nd half, they can't beat good teams anywhere and they can't win on the road.
In their 5 losses this is the Patriots offense in the 2nd half
0 points - Jets
0 points - Broncos
10 points w/ 2 red zone TO's including a pick to Moss - Colts
7 points w/ mo changing drive stopping pick to Moss - Saints
WHO was covering his Greatness that Saints game?? Embarrassing!!
7 points w/ 4th qtr red zone pick to Moss - Dolphins
WHO was covering his Greatness that Dolphins game?? Embarrassing!!