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Old 12-06-2009, 11:33 PM   #1
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Default Should Brady be calling the offensive plays?

Week after week I watch Brady looking and waiting for the sidelines to
send in the play. Quite oftern the Pats rush to get the play off before
time runs out and they receive a delay of game penalty.

The plays that do come in are usually quite predictable.

I for one knew that Sammy Morris was going to get the ball on
4th and 1 when he was stopped.

He was lined up at a blocking back/Full back, but he
got the ball and Maroney was the decoy.

Didn't we run that play last week on 4th and 1? (Or was it the week before?).

If I knew, it is no suprise Miami knew.

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the fb dive to morris was horrible.
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Week after week I watch Brady looking and waiting for the sidelines to
send in the play. Quite oftern the Pats rush to get the play off before
time runs out and they receive a delay of game penalty.

The plays that do come in are usually quite predictable.

I for one knew that Sammy Morris was going to get the ball on
4th and 1 when he was stopped.

He was lined up at a blocking back/Full back, but he
got the ball and Maroney was the decoy.

Didn't we run that play last week on 4th and 1? (Or was it the week before?).

If I knew, it is no suprise Miami knew.
I don't think Brady needs more on his plate. That said, I do think someone else should be calling plays. Our offensive playcalling is an epic failure from my perspective. I actually think the problem with our lack of offensive rhythm comes right back to the way plays are being called.
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the fb dive to morris was horrible.
it only works in madden
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it only works in madden
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I don't think Brady needs more on his plate. Belichick should focus on the offense and call the plays. Dante should be made interim OC and O'Brian demoted to water boy. Belichick can even give Charlie a call for advice.
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I think Belichick is seriously going to consider placing a call to Mr. Weis. BB has to spend a lot of his time with the defense because they are young and we obviously need to work some kinks out. He thought the offense would be good enough to work itself out, but obviously not. I would BB is spending a lot of time during halftime going over stuff with the defensive guys just like on the sideline when the offense is out there and he has their back to them and is talking to the D.

Therefore, I think more responsibility has been put in O'Brien's hands to make the halftime adjustments on offense. It's evident his inexperience is hurting us. Opposing teams are going in at halftime and adjusting to what we are doing on offense. They come out with a plan and they execute it. After that, we're screwed. We cannot counter their adjustments, and as a result our 2nd half offense this year has been absolutely abysmal. Obviously BB can't do everything and I want him spending a lot of time with the defense b/c we need to get our act together soon. Bringing in Weis would enable him to channel all his energy to the D while not having to worry at all about the offense with a great offensive mind like Weis who has a ton of experience in the NFL and has won Super Bowls.
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Belichick can (and should) call Charilie for advice, but Charlie can't come in and run the offense until next year. If a change is to be made, Belichick should spend more time with the OFFENSE. It is the offense that is not playing up to its potential. The defense is playing about as well as the talent and experience allows. I agree that Belichick should spend a lot more time with the young defense in the offseason, while at the same time bringing in a top OC like Charlie Weis.


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I think Belichick is seriously going to consider placing a call to Mr. Weis. BB has to spend a lot of his time with the defense because they are young and we obviously need to work some kinks out. He thought the offense would be good enough to work itself out, but obviously not. I would BB is spending a lot of time during halftime going over stuff with the defensive guys just like on the sideline when the offense is out there and he has their back to them and is talking to the D.

Therefore, I think more responsibility has been put in O'Brien's hands to make the halftime adjustments on offense. It's evident his inexperience is hurting us. Opposing teams are going in at halftime and adjusting to what we are doing on offense. They come out with a plan and they execute it. After that, we're screwed. We cannot counter their adjustments, and as a result our 2nd half offense this year has been absolutely abysmal. Obviously BB can't do everything and I want him spending a lot of time with the defense b/c we need to get our act together soon. Bringing in Weis would enable him to channel all his energy to the D while not having to worry at all about the offense with a great offensive mind like Weis who has a ton of experience in the NFL and has won Super Bowls.
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Wait wait wait wait wait. It appears to me that the pats success in the first half is likely due to great planning. By the 3rd/4th Quarter the other teams adjust or we run out of "new" material. If this is the case, then isn't it quite the opposite of what people are saying? Are we sure that the first half is called significantly by O'Brien while Brady takes more play calling responsibility in the 2nd half when they "attempt" to make adjustments? I'm not saying this is what is happening, I'm simply wonder whether Brady calling the plays is the problem.
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O'Brien is going through the same type of growing pains that one would expect of a first year man in the position. If Belichick doesn't feel he's progressing, he should make a move at the end of the year. However, I think that most of the complaining about the play calling has been about covering for the disappointing play of the personnel more than it's about the calls themselves.

I've had my issues with the play calling for the past couple of seasons, but that hasn't been something to harp on, because it has been a matter of preference as opposed to something I felt was costing the team games. That seems to have changed this season, but that's a function of having a new man in the position. Even so, the calls wouldn't be as critical if Brady wasn't playing so inconsistently, the o-line was blocking consistently, Moss was still 2 steps faster than his defenders and the WR3 was able to open up the field for Moss and Welker.

Let's be honest about something here. Brady probably isn't going to start calling more running plays, or having Maroney running out of different formations while catching more footballs. He's not going to call for more 5 yard slants to Moss, or to stop throwing that 1 yard pass to Faulk out of the empty backfield formation. Part of the problem this year seems to be that Brady is no longer scanning the field the way he used to, and is locking in on Welker and Moss. Does anyone really think that will change if Brady's calling the plays?

The solution is getting a WR3, improving the O-line play and mixing the run more effectively into the game. Of those 3, only the last one is on the shoulders of the O.C., and it can't be done if the offensive line doesn't start playing up to snuff.
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