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***Deus Irae*** · 12-05-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

CLADY vs MAYO
We needed an ILB very, very badly. We still had two more years of an acceptable LT in Light. The choice was a a simple one. As you we found out, it is possible to draft a stud OT in the 2nd round if you are williong to wait a bit before making him a starter. Belichick's strategy seem to ahve worked fine.

OHER vs. BUTLER, TATE, EDELMAN and a 2010 2nd
The last three were bonuses. We needed a future starter at corner. Most evaluators had Butler as a value choice for the patriots at 23. If Light is gone, we can draft another OT in the 2nd round as we did this year. With LeVoir as backup, the rook would have a year to develop.

BOTTOM LINE
I don't think that this team would be better off with Clady and Oher instead of Mayo and Butler. This is especially so since we had two years with three picks in the second round, one of which could be used for an OT.

MY QUESTION MARK
Chung instead of Levitre or Unger

I'm not sure you and I could disagree more on this if we both set out to do so. Well, such is the nature of message boards.

Fencer · 12-05-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

I'm not sure you and I could disagree more on this if we both set out to do so. Well, such is the nature of message boards.

Often I hate your posting style. But I absolutely love that observation!

***Rob0729*** · 12-05-2009, 04:43 PM

Personally, I have been disapointed in the o-line. Koppen's play has been declining over the last few years. Mankins can be a beast, but he has had a few clunkers. Neal is too injury prone. Kazcur has really fallen apart over the last few weeks. Light was playing fairly well before he got hurt and Vollmer played well in replacement. LeVoir was horrible in spot duty at LT the last two weeks.

The o-line during the Super Bowl years didn't have any big names and a lot of journeymen except for Woody who made the Super Bowl, but they played well together as a unit. I think this o-line hasn't done that consistently this year. Even in good offensive performances, Brady has been on the run a lot and buying his own time with his feel in the pocket and knowing when to step up at the right time.

SVN · 12-05-2009, 04:45 PM

they need this guy...stout up front
YouTube - Florida State Lineman

baller90 · 12-05-2009, 06:37 PM

This is my first post in this forum and have been reading this forum for about 3 years now. One observation with this thread. I am wondering why some people are ignoring the fact that these guys are pretty banged up right now and its probaly hurting there effectivness more then you realize. Everyone in this league is so good that the difference between an average starter and a pro-bowler is very slim. So if a player is hurt and not 100 percent especially in his legs that will hurt his effectivness obviously. Light and Kaczur both have leg injurys which is probaly hurting there lateral mobility somewhat. Kaczur has also went up against some very good defensive ends in their own stadium on turf and really had only a few bad plays. Anyways hopefully by playoff time the lines health improves for a Super Bowl run. Go Pats!

JSn · 12-05-2009, 06:57 PM

Well, we won't be seeing Vollmer again tomorrow.

***KontradictioN*** · 12-05-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Just something to ponder, given the way the draft has fallen in the past 2 seasons:

This line could have been bookended by Clady at LT and Oher at RT.

I really, REALLY wanted Oher when he was available. Imagine the kind of destruction that he and Neal would be able to do together.

patsfan-1982 · 12-05-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by patsinthesnow

Mayo, Butler, Tate, Edelman, 2010 JAX second rounder> Clady and Oher

mayo is a good LB but let's face it you can get a 100 tackel ILB in the 2th round

a LT like clady that has given up only 1 or 2 sacks over the last 2 years are hard to come by

***mgteich*** · 12-05-2009, 07:47 PM

And how many times to we need to remind everyone that we could have had Laurinitis in the 2nd?

Obviously diodn't think that there was an ILB of Mayo's quality in the second round.

Besides, our ILB situation would have been a disaster without Mayo, then and now.

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Originally Posted by patsfan-1982

mayo is a good LB but let's face it you can get a 100 tackel ILB in the 2th round

a LT like clady that has given up only 1 or 2 sacks over the last 2 years are hard to come by

patsfan-1982 · 12-05-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

And how many times to we need to remind everyone that we could have had Laurinitis in the 2nd?

Obviously diodn't think that there was an ILB of Mayo's quality in the second round.

Besides, our ILB situation would have been a disaster without Mayo, then and now.

i do agree with you there that the ILB was a much biger need to the pats then haveing a LT when light was there all redy

and mayo was the best LB in that draft

i get it no reason to upgrade LT from good light. to great clady when you can upgrade the LB spot from bad to good and be good at both spots

your right