Gumby

When the Denver game started it kicked off very auspiciously (in my mind).

One of the very first plays had 2 or 3 Pats defenders jumping across the neutral zone. Immediately after the flags went up; both the Denver players and the Pats guys (Sey I think and Wilfork but not sure) were very very vigourously imploring the refs to call it their way. (encroachment by Pats or false start on Denver respectively)


I couldn't help thinking at the time; 'I have never seen Pats guys get so worked up at talking the refs into something; Did BB tell them this crew was "persuadable" or something?'

Q: Is it possible that BB had scouted the referees. A: I think almost indisputably he gives his guys crew tendancies as part of the game prep.

Q: Is it possible that this prep had an unintended consequence of making the Pats capable of being psyched out by the refs making horrid one sided calls like that BS on Asante?

We'll never know; but IMO the calls did affect things.

Like the first call on Asante IMO did affect how hawkins covered the next Bronco in the back of the end zone; he backed off the guy with a 6 foot cushion once ball was released high by Plummer; just so ref wouldn't have an excuse to call PI again.

patsox23

Gumby, bless you. But this is absurd.

ilduce06410

each crew of officials gets a numerical rating for every game they work. i would imagine that the ratings are kept pretty secret.
but if any nfl coaches would know each crew's ratings, it would be the wily old guys like BB, parcells, joe gibbs, shanahan, and probably a couple others.
did BB and shanahan know the crew's rating? i'd be surprised if they didn't. was it a lousy rating? who knows? BB made a comment to that effect in a conference call.
and yes, i believe that jfk is a shaman somewhere in the chilean mountains, elvis walks among us from time to time, and that flouride in our drinking water is a communist plot.

PATSNUTme

OT. But, have you looked in Shanahan's eyes?

If he wasn't a coach, he would be a serial killer.

Bill's Girl

No angry responses please.... Roger Clemens and Curt Shilling keep track of umpires, how they define the strike zone and other tendencies they repeat. It would be more shocking if BB did NOT know the tendencies of particular officiating crews.

BB has tape on everyone. I just hope the tape he has on me is not from the '80s with my big hair and ripped jeans dancing to "Like A Virgin"......

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sdaniels7114

That's got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read.

I doubt anybody from any coaching staff has access to the NFL's Ref scoring system; but I'll bet most all teams have one of their own. Coaches work like what? A million hours a week? and have access to video of everything and all the help they'd ever need.

wilycoyote

I'm pretty sure it's in the holley book that Belichick is aware of which crew is working the game that week and informs the players of tendencies. It makes sense, not sure if that's standard procedure for every team to do this.

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