Willie55

Top flight coaches also recognize the reality of the situation that the talent stinks and they are way over the salary cap. I think if he already had a resume as an established head coach, (ie Parcells when he came to New England), he would take it in a heart beat. But Mangini has only one year as a coordinator under his belt and in a league of what have you done for me lately that's not much.

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MoLewisrocks

I know, it's only a 32 team league and this year there are only....................
10 vacancies so far this year.

R_T26

In Patriot Reign BB tells Ryan he always has a home in New England. But lets face it, its BB's defense.

AndyJohnson

I am just saying that the factors in Eric Mangini's decison will not include the possibilty of failing. They surely may include the roadblocks to success.

Look at it this way. When BB got here, there was less talent on this team than any in the NFL, and we had cap problems too. Look what happened. Mangini wont shrink from the challenge. He may however, choose to only work for an orginzation that knows what its doing, because the Jets would screw up what he is trying to do, with incompetence in key support areas, like GM, personell evaluators, etc.

DaBruinz

Andy - Just remember that one of the big reasons for BB's success with the Patriots is that he gets to "buy the groceries." Pioli does the shopping for BB, but BB is the one who provided specific instructions for the list.

I think that Mangini would be hard-pressed to get the same sort of interaction with Bradway (guy is too egotistical). Mangini could find it with another GM, though I don't know if Marv Levy would be an that sort of GM. There aren't many other jobs out there as the Chiefs, Vikings and Packers have already filled their positions. The Raiders are a situation that in truly untenable for any coach (IMHO). That only leaves the Texans, Saints, Rams, and Lions. Matt Millen isn't someone who is smart enough to admit what he doesn't know. The Rams and Saints could be very good situations, though. And I wouldn't mind seeing Mangini in the NFC.

MoLewisrocks

I disagree. BB will counsel him from experience that sometimes being in a rush to get out from under your mentor is akin to shooting yourself in the foot. He learned the hard way that being a HC is about a lot more than X's and O's prowess. And if you don't know any better you canand likely will be set up as the ultimate fall guy if things don't work out. Fear of failure is the motivator that drives some of the most successful people in the world - including our incredible QB. It's also what led BB out of NY/NJ and into NE.

After Cleveland, BB had to go crawling back to papa with his tail between his legs, (as Rob Ryan may end up doing) and almost had to settle for spending the rest of his career in his mentor's ample shadow. If Bob Kraft hadn't decided to follow his gut BB might never have gotten another shot at HC (except as the puppetmasters tool in the Meadowlands) because of the undeserved rep the Cleveland experience smeared on him. Which is why BB will likely advise his young DC to be patient and wait for a situation where he isn't so obviously placing himself in a position to fail but rather one where he is reasonably well poised to succeed.

patsfan13

If I were Mangini I wouldn't go to MY unless Bradway was out he isn't a good GM. Woody J isn't a very good owner either. After living through the dreadful Pats owners over the years before Kraft I can really appreciate how big a difference ownership makes.

If EM leaves I'd like to see P Johnson get a shot.

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scott99

I'm not defending the Jets, but I think you used the correct words, "apparent lack of talent". The Jets have plenty of talent, they just went through a year of horrendous injuries. Not the least of which is the loss of their first TWO QB's. Imagine if we had to go through a season with Matt Cassel as our QB, especially early in the season with our offensive injuries, which Brooks Bollinger had to deal with, 2 O-Linemen going down for the season (like us) and Curtis Martin being hurt (as we misssed Faulk & Dillon). It wouldn't have been pretty, no offense to Cassel. Add our defensive injuries and our need to score a lot early in the season, and no doubt we would have been near the 4-12 neiborhood too. If we lose Mangini (I hope not), He would have a pretty good defense to work with, and and possibly someone like Matt Linehart as his QB. The Jets will be much better next year, they can't get much worse.

As far as our DC, I would like to someone like Pepper get it. Always been a Pepper fan, and I'd like to see what he can do, obviously with BB's input.

PatsFanInMaine

Didn't Parcells retire from the Giants after the 1990 season and BB went on to coach the Browns in 1991 after being passed over for the Giants job in favor of Ray Handley? BB may very well have stayed on as the DC under Parcells if Parcells had not retired.

PatsChick87

If we EM were to leave, I'd be rooting for Pepper!

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