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Old 11-06-2009, 05:05 PM   #31
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the pats did a horrible job of crisis and media management. they just let lies and untruths sit out there for weeks on end.
If I remember correctly (forgot where i heard/read it), that was because Goodell pretty much told the Pats organization to (Please be quiet - edited) and not say a word or it would go worse for them.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:33 PM   #32
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Seeing as the Chiefs are recognized as among the Godfathers of cheating in the NFL going back 50 years and the "cheater" in question has a Trophy named after him, I'd suspect there will be little who even remember this in 10 years.

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The Patriots have won said trophy quite a few times actually!

The stupid people who don't know squat about the history of the NFL and actually think the Patriots cheated likely had bad memories anyway.

Heck - there might even be a "Belichick Trophy" awarded each season by then!
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:53 PM   #33
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i agree if the pats win another title or two then most of this crap that is left will go away, but there will always be a few who scream "tainted" no matter what else happens. some fans are still angry about the tuck rule and say the pats won it in 01 because of the 9-11 attacks. others say they cheated against indy when they were too physical with the WRs in the 03 AFCCG. Sore losers always have an excuse.
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The only "fallout" from Spygate was that BB et al tightened things up a LOT. Emails that got ignored (we've all gotten corporate emails, we know what we do with them ) became priority; the Pats recognized the need to pay more attention to all that, in fact didn't they go so far as to put some new systems in place so that things like this wouldn't happen in the future?

The Pats did everything they had to to correct that part of the situation-BB being unaware of the rule change.

I think the entire organization went into defensive mode including the team. On the field BB made sure all their i's were dotted and their t's were crossed, I thought at the time it affected our defense but maybe time has altered my perception.

They've moved past all that imo and so has most of the league it seems. But one thing that will never change, at least for me, is my perception of the media. They fueled the opposing fans, they fueled opposing coaches and teams, they reported lies, they went after BB on a personal level, they attacked us fans... then they in turn fed it more, and the beat went on.

The media was out of control and in some cases probably downright despicable.

No matter, I think the Pats are better for it and anyone who thinks they've forgotten who their enemies were is crazy. I love the fact Reiss, Tedy and Rodney have penetrated their lines

Plus the Pats continue to be there every year despite it all and at this point even opposing teams as well as the media have come to respect that. generally I think Spyhate's been put behind, but I don't think any of us will ever forget the media's handling of it all. Neither will Bob Kraft.
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If I remember correctly (forgot where i heard/read it), that was because Goodell pretty much told the Pats organization to (Please be quiet - edited) and not say a word or it would go worse for them.
That deserves some investigtion, IMHO. Why was the team forced to just sit here and take the weeks/months of abuse from the press? It's ridiculous that our team could not defend themselves.
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Until Jetdell is forced out of the NFL, indicted, tried and convicted on a number of racketeering charges tied to his involvement with an inner circle of NY money brokers,municipal kingpins and the owners of the two NFL franchises, this ridiculous "story" will keep circulating, as per order of the omissioner's office in weekly memos to all the major sports news outlets.
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Until Jetdell is forced out of the NFL, indicted, tried and convicted on a number of racketeering charges tied to his involvement with an inner circle of NY money brokers,municipal kingpins and the owners of the two NFL franchises, this ridiculous "story" will keep circulating, as per order of the omissioner's office in weekly memos to all the major sports news outlets.

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Unfortunately there need be no media fueled circulation when this thread that is now at 4 pages and 1500 views was generated based on nothing more than a patsfans desire to revisit and poke sticks in it...yet again. There is a small percentage of malcontent fans, most of whom are drawn to outlets like the internet to kvetch, who will never let go of any perceived injustice. 1/32nd or so of them reside right here.
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As far as this issue goes, I have no inclination to let go of "it", just as I have and had no inclination to let go of the Ben Dreith issue years ago which EVENTUALLY proved out to be true, by way of Dreith's admission in an interview up in Montana in the 90's. Goodell NEVER should have sat in judgement of the NE Patriots given his work history background with the Jets and his start in the league offices per the recommendation of the Jet principal owner at the time. He REEKS of corruption, his actions against our franchise fairly SCREAM bias and his continued inaction to put this sham story to rest PROVES his collusion.
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great ring. you should put the date and score of their "Super Bowl" against the Pats this September on it.
Love it. No need for the date. Simply put SB 43 1/8..........

Yet, I haven't got a clue what the Roman numerals would look like.
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