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Old 01-03-2006, 08:45 AM   #11
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Here's the league's official draft order, we are #21 unless we head off to SB 40

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9137410

Without sounding like I have low expecations for the playoffs, I am psyched that we ended up at #21 if we don't get to the SB. We were at #26 heading into last week.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:47 AM   #12
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Other than waiting a year (which does have value), that's basically even with the draft picks only (moving down 11 spots from #64 to Baltimore's #3 this year but moving up from a low #7 to a high #5). And this year's draft being way stronger than last year's kind of balances out the "wait a year for the player" value.
I realize the above probably looks a little silly based on the "draft pick a year from now is devalued a round" thing. Personally I think that's over devaluing it, which is why I love trading a pick this year for a round higher pick next year plus a little something this year. But looking at the overall trade in another way, I think we would all be happy now if we had taken Hobbs at #64 and Cassel with our #7. Which makes the bonus picks from Baltimore and Oakland free.
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Here's the league's official draft order, we are #21 unless we head off to SB 40
That's not an accurate representation of what the article says. We could go to #22 without being in the Super Bowl, for the reasons discussed earlier.
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That's not an accurate representation of what the article says. We could go to #22 without being in the Super Bowl, for the reasons discussed earlier.
That is true but we're at #21 or #22 and no lower unless we make it to the SB.
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From the "Ourlads"site:

"Once the first round sequence has been established, in subsequent rounds teams rotate within their won-loss grouping with the team that picked earliest in the previous round moving to the last position of the group while others move up."

Does this mean that Baltimore's #3 pick that we have will be the 11th pick in the third round? If I'm reading this right the first round order of the 6-10 teams is:
11 St. Louis
12 Cleveland
13 Baltimore
14 Philadelphia

Then following the above formula the second round would be
11 Cleveland
12 Baltimore
13 Philadephia
14 St. Louis

Making the third round look like this:
11 New England (from Baltimore)
12 Philadelphia
13 St. Louis
14 Cleveland

If this is the case, we need to root for Oakland to lose the coin flip with San Francisco, that would make Oakland first round pick the 7th overall pick (instead of the 6th), but if you follow the rule above,it would mean that there 5th rd pick (which the Pats own) would be the 3rd pick in the fifth round, as opposed to the 7th pick if they win the coin flip.

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Does this mean that Baltimore's #3 pick that we have will be the 11th pick in the third round?
Yes, that's correct.

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If this is the case, we need to root for Oakland to lose the coin flip with San Francisco
They already did the coin flip and Oakland won it.
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Does this mean that Baltimore's #3 pick that we have will be the 11th pick in the third round?
Yes, and all three of our picks acquired via trade were listed in this thread yesterday taking this rotation into account.

The one thing which we don't know for certain is what pick we have to give up to Cleveland for Andre Davis -- it's supposed to be a fifth but noone has ever said definitively whether it's our fifth or Oakland's.
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