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BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Synovia

He's been the best LB we've had pretty much the entire time he's been here. He had a tough time this year, but thats not unexpected in the scheme change.

Please give me another example of a player Belichick has benched to "set an example", and no, Joey Galloway isn't one. He was benched because Edelman is a better player in the current scheme.

LMAO, if I hear scheme change as an excuse one more time I'm going to die laughing. When the scheme was a 3-4 in 07/08 why was he still an average player?

He wasn't half the player he was in 07 that he was in 06. People here also have a delusion that he was great for us last year before his injury. Actually, he was just our only decent player in a terrible LB core. Also, you can't tell me he has been better than Mayo. Mayo alone makes a far bigger difference for his run defense.

Please give ME an example of a key defensive player BB has sat during a game, fully healthy, because he didn't fit the game plan that day. Wasn't at the field or anything, etc. Please, if you're going to say scheme change again just stop responding.

Snarf · 10-20-2009, 02:02 PM

Can anyone explain why posters here call Adalius Thomas "AD" ?

His initials are AT, not AD.

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

Terry Glenn

Ouch, I forgot about that one. I forgot he was benched before he was traded.

bbell31 · 10-20-2009, 02:03 PM

yep ad has been overrated for the past two years, said it months ago

robertweathers · 10-20-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Ouch, I forgot about that one. I forgot he was benched before he was traded.

After he started *****ing about his playing time, Steve Martin got the axe late in the 2002 season.

Not trying to call you out but I'm sure there have been a few more that we just don't know about. IMO I think BB just reached his wits end with AD and was left with no other alternative than to damage his ego.

Pujo · 10-20-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarf

Can anyone explain why posters here call Adalius Thomas "AD" ?

His initials are AT, not AD.

Yeah, but his last name is pronounced Domas.

BillBelichickFan79 · 10-20-2009, 02:31 PM

Saying that he was not half the player he was in 2006 could be inaccurate. In the Ravens one gap style of the 3-4 he was asked to shoot the gaps and blitz a lot more often than he is in the Pats two gap style where LB's have more responsibilities than just rushing the QB every play. That's why I think the sacks were down when he came here. However in 2007 he still had 2 FF and 8 PD and a pick 6. Just because he wasn't piling up sacks doesnt mean he wasn't having an impact on defense. Just my two cents.

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BillBelichickFan79

Saying that he was not half the player he was in 2006 could be inaccurate. In the Ravens one gap style of the 3-4 he was asked to shoot the gaps and blitz a lot more often than he is in the Pats two gap style where LB's have more responsibilities than just rushing the QB every play. That's why I think the sacks were down when he came here. However in 2007 he still had 2 FF and 8 PD and a pick 6. Just because he wasn't piling up sacks doesnt mean he wasn't having an impact on defense. Just my two cents.

Enough with this and that. The damn excuses here are RIDICULOUS. It's pretty simple to me. McGinest/Vrabel has HUGE impacts at OLB stopping the run and rushing the passer. What the hell has Thomas done? Dropped back into coverage? He has not been great any particular area on the defense. You pay a guy like you pay Adalius Thomas because you believe he is worth that money.

We're paying a "player" a "play maker's" salary if that makes sense. Thomas hasn't sucked, he just is average while his contract is paying him otherwise. I'd be pissed too if I was BB.

BillBelichickFan79 · 10-20-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Enough with this and that. The damn excuses here are RIDICULOUS. It's pretty simple to me. McGinest/Vrabel has HUGE impacts at OLB stopping the run and rushing the passer. What the hell has Thomas done? Dropped back into coverage? He has not been great any particular area on the defense. You pay a guy like you pay Adalius Thomas because you believe he is worth that money.

We're paying a "player" a "play maker's" salary if that makes sense. Thomas hasn't sucked, he just is average while his contract is paying him otherwise. I'd be pissed too if I was BB.

I agree with you. I'm not making excuses for him but rather suggesting why he hasn't been the playmaker we thought he was.

He should not be getting paid like playmaker when he is performing like an average LB. Maybe we got deked out by AD b/c it was a contract year so he went balls to the wall and now that he got his fat contract he doesn't give a ****. I had very high hopes for him but obviously he hasn't lived up to his billing.

Not to mention the fact that he couldn't ****en wrap up and sack Eli Manning to preserve our perfect season. *******.

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BillBelichickFan79

I agree with you. I'm not making excuses for him but rather suggesting why he hasn't been the playmaker we thought he was.

He should not be getting paid like playmaker when he is performing like an average LB. Maybe we got deked out by AD b/c it was a contract year so he went balls to the wall and now that he got his fat contract he doesn't give a ****. I had very high hopes for him but obviously he hasn't lived up to his billing.

Not to mention the fact that he couldn't ****en wrap up and sack Eli Manning to preserve our perfect season. *******.

Fair point, I see what you're saying.

Exactly what you said is how I feel. What's ironic is perhaps the very game you're pissed at him for, is the one game he has ever looked like the guy we hoped. What's that tell you about his career here thus far? And yes, it probably is yet another guy who was hungry for the money.