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billdog3484 · 10-20-2009, 01:33 PM

after missing the playoffs due to a tie break scenario last year, and being 3-2 this year, do you really think we are going to mess around and sit our best players to see what other players might be able to do?

your scenario is not possible

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Synovia

Send a message? What are these, 5 year old kids that you need to punish?

AD was on the bench for 1 of 2 reasons:

1) They think they're more likely to win that game with someone else

2) The scheme they are running for that game doesn't fit him well.

These are professionals we're talking about.

So we're going to spend a lot on a guy that doesn't suit up in certain games because he doesn't do well against them? That sucks.

Look, in two years prior to this Thomas was never a healthy scratch. Why would he not even be at the stadium to get new guys in? Why would he have to sit a whole freaking game? I don't think there's any coach in this league thats dumb enough to bench a guy they feel gives them the best chance to suceed to see what some guy can do during a game. It's just not going to happen, these games, ecspecially conference games are critical to this teams chances for a good seeding.

There's more to it than Bill just wants to see someone else play. I don't recall McGinest, Law, Brusch, etc. EVER being benched for that reason, why would he bench someone he plays a lot more than he paid those guys? You don't sit who you feel are your elite players, period.

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billdog3484

after missing the playoffs due to a tie break scenario last year, and being 3-2 this year, do you really think we are going to mess around and sit our best players to see what other players might be able to do?

your scenario is not possible

Exactly what I just said.

pencilneckgeek · 10-20-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiZa

Not that I want to see this happen, but could the deactivation be a message to the league that he is on the trading block? He's the highest paid defensive player on the team and is not the pro-bowl caliber LB we've seen when he was with Baltimore. Don't get me wrong, I want him on the team, but BB has been known to be thinking two step ahead of everyone else.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, a trade can't be done. The pats have about $4M in cap space, and AD would carry a $7.3M cap hit if traded or cut his already-paid signing bonus, which is amortized against the cap through 2011. Next year, they could cut or trade him at a roughly cap-neutral cost.

Reckedtrek · 10-20-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

BB should enlist Spiccoli and trash ADs car and blame the AFC.. That'll get him motivated...

I can fix it.... Dante's got an ultimate set of tools... I can fix it.

***BradyFTW!*** · 10-20-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiZa

Not that I want to see this happen, but could the deactivation be a message to the league that he is on the trading block? He's the highest paid defensive player on the team and is not the pro-bowl caliber LB we've seen when he was with Baltimore. Don't get me wrong, I want him on the team, but BB has been known to be thinking two step ahead of everyone else.

ADT IS NOT GETTING TRADED. IT CANNOT BE DONE UNDER THE CAP.

Seriously people, stop suggesting that a Thomas trade is incoming. Unless you can find an extra $7M in cap space, it can't happen.

That said, I think that there's more going on behind the scenes than we know. I have no idea what the reason is, so I'm not going to bother speculating.

Synovia · 10-20-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Look, in two years prior to this Thomas was never a healthy scratch..

In two years prior to this, we've played a different base defensive scheme?

BionicPatriot · 10-20-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Synovia

In two years prior to this, we've played a different base defensive scheme?

If you're really goin to somehow convince yourself as your lost in your huge delusion, that AD was scratched because he just didn't fit the game plan..Well I don't know what to say. The guy was playing 4-3 for us this year, and 3-4 for us before. Why would we sit him out this game? If anything, that's showing that they think he's either not good enough, or they're sending him a message.

I think people here need to give up the hope of AT even coming on or living up to what we thought he was. The fact is he hasn't done anything to earn what he's making and Bill is trying something, anything to light a fire under his ass because he damn sure can't get rid of him, he might as well use him as much as he can while he's here. If by trying to motivate him makes step up, it's a good move.

Synovia · 10-20-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

I think people here need to give up the hope of AT even coming on or living up to what we thought he was. The fact is he hasn't done anything to earn what he's making and Bill is trying something, anything to light a fire under his ass because he damn sure can't get rid of him, he might as well use him as much as he can while he's here. If by trying to motivate him makes step up, it's a good move.

He's been the best LB we've had pretty much the entire time he's been here. He had a tough time this year, but thats not unexpected in the scheme change.

Please give me another example of a player Belichick has benched to "set an example", and no, Joey Galloway isn't one. He was benched because Edelman is a better player in the current scheme.

robertweathers · 10-20-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Synovia

He's been the best LB we've had pretty much the entire time he's been here. He had a tough time this year, but thats not unexpected in the scheme change.

Please give me another example of a player Belichick has benched to "set an example", and no, Joey Galloway isn't one. He was benched because Edelman is a better player in the current scheme.

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