Bostonian1962

So, some folks here didn't like the move of trading Richard Seymour. They didn't care that all the cap space was being opened up. They didn't care that the draft pick gained, could likely be a Top 10 pick.

After the Raiders game one, when Seymour had 2 sacks, and overall played well, they liked the trade even less.

Well, I would be interested in hearing folks opinion of the trade, now 5 weeks in.

In Game Two Seymour had: 2 solo tackles, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles
In Game Three Seymour had: 3 solo tackles, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles
In Game Four Seymour had: 2 solo tackles, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles
In Game Five Seymour had: 1 solo tackle, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles

I wonder if BB had a hunch about what he was doing? Thoughts? Comments? Anybody change their mind yet?

Deus Irae

I've not changed my mind.

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captain insano

i think its safe to say Richard isn't a happy camper and its affecting his play big time.

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MassPats38

I understood the purpose of the trade and still support the decision as far as the best interests of the team in the long run.

As far as Seymour, I still believe he would be the best man for that position on the Pats this season. Oakland is so dysfunctional at this point it would be tough to look at game statistics and get anything meaningful from them as far as abilities (e.g., if the other side of the line is weak, everything may be running in that direction, meaning Seymour is doing his job but not getting the opportunities thus no statistics).

signbabybrady

I was on the fence then and I am still on the fence now.

On one hand the potential top ten pick looms large but on the other hand it isn't like our D-line has been lights out. I don't care what his stats look like you can't sit there and say he wouldn't help and what did the cap space do?

I think this one should be revisited after this season.

but since you brought it up now I ask this what would you rather have Seymour plus next years 3 and 5 or Burgess plus a 1 two drafts from now?


As I said I am still on the fence but leaning toward not liking it.

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MoLewisrocks

And we all know only one thing will...

signbabybrady

this is a true statement but its hard not to see the present as more important when its not your job to make this team competive year in and year out

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Spiral

Nope.

I was trying to think of how many current NFL players would be worth a lottery pick for one year's worth of service. I came up with three: Brady, Manning, and Adrian Peterson. Can't think of any others.

borg

Unless the Patriots trade for a high priced player over the next few days, all the cap savings go into Kraft's pocket. As far as Seymour goes, he does get to wear black....on sunny days

Bostonian1962

That is a very fair counter-question. Here's the part I'm "on the fence" about, and it's with regard to the Burgess part. Because I want to see if he gets better, the more he is immersed in this defense, I will take the same position as you. That is, I want to revisit after the season. I am fine with the Seymour trade, and always have been. I have long expressed my frustration that his level of play dropped so significantly after he signed the huge deal.

That's a ton of money to get off the books, and frees up alot of space to do other things. He has not been the monster of a disruptive force that he once was. In two years, when the Pats are drafting a 21 year old football player in the top ten, I'll like the move even more.

I have not given up on Burgess, but need to see more, and thus my comment.