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Old 09-22-2009, 09:42 PM   #1
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It has somehow become vogue to consider fans who have confidence in BB blind, ignorant, unthinking homers. While those that question him, doubt him, and expect the worst, are simply being realists.
Consider this:
In the last 8 years"
1 time we lacked talent to compete (2002)
1 time we lost our GOAT QB
In the other 6 seasons with everything else that got in the way, with all of the criticisms of scheme, play calling, coordinators, drafting, etc, etc there were 6 other seasons
5 were at least to the AFFC (4 to the Sb, and 3 SB wins)
1 was a divisional round loss in the year we tried to 3peat when Bruschi had a stroke

Given that we do not lack talent, as in 2002, and Brady is at QB, history says 5/6th of the time we advance at least to the AFCC with a great shot at winning it, and a great shot at winning the next one, and 1/6th of the time, we only advance to the divisional round.

Explain to me again why believing in BB is the unthinking (Koolaid slurping) approach and doubting him is the well thought out reasoned one.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:45 PM   #2
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It has somehow become vogue to consider fans who have confidence in BB blind, ignorant, unthinking homers. While those that question him, doubt him, and expect the worst, are simply being realists.
Consider this:
In the last 8 years"
1 time we lacked talent to compete (2002)
1 time we lost our GOAT QB
In the other 6 seasons with everything else that got in the way, with all of the criticisms of scheme, play calling, coordinators, drafting, etc, etc there were 6 other seasons
5 were at least to the AFFC (4 to the Sb, and 3 SB wins)
1 was a divisional round loss in the year we tried to 3peat when Bruschi had a stroke

Given that we do not lack talent, as in 2002, and Brady is at QB, history says 5/6th of the time we advance at least to the AFCC with a great shot at winning it, and a great shot at winning the next one, and 1/6th of the time, we only advance to the divisional round.

Explain to me again why believing in BB is the unthinking (Koolaid slurping) approach and doubting him is the well thought out reasoned one.
I think this may be directed to deus irate.. I for one am far from panicking.

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i'm not panicking but I never believed in the "In BB we trust" nonsense. He's a human like everyone else and makes mistakes. Sometimes he makes great moves, other times he doesn't. Would I take him over any coach? Absolutely. However, he should be criticized at times too.
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never panicked

but sometimes a team needs to take a step back so that in turn, they can improve future prospects.

I am alot more entertained when things aren't so sure
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i'm not panicking but I never believed in the "In BB we trust" nonsense. He's a human like everyone else and makes mistakes.
I think this is misleading, albeit unintentionally.

"In BB We Trust," to me does not mean he's infallible. It means he's worthy of our trust - even blind trust at times. That's not the same thing as thinking he never makes mistakes, which is what you - and others - are suggesting. All in all, I ABSOLUTELY trust that Belichick will, far more often than not, and far more often than every other coach, make the right decisions for this team and put it in great position to compete for a championship.

I believe a lack of understanding for that phrase, willful or otherwise, is part of what causes a lot of the friction here.

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The same people that are noticing other fans panic have knocked Belichick's gameday coaching decisions in the past.

I believe what AndyJohnson is saying is that it's a little galling that people are criticizing Belichick's defensive schemes. Knock his playcalling, knock his gameday decisions, knock his silly little whiteboards, etc., but some people are saying Belichick's coaching philosophy--in the grand scheme of things when it comes to Xs and Os--needs rethinking.

I mean, I'd be embarrassed to post something like that.
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With the stable of running backs we have, I want to see greater balance between run/pass and a more violent defense. They've performed about as well as I would have expected, even without Mayo.
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Belichick got out-coached this past weekend.
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I think this is misleading, albeit unintentionally.

"In BB We Trust," to me does not mean he's infallible. It means he's worthy of our trust - even blind trust at times. That's not the same thing as thinking he never makes mistakes, which is what you - and others - are suggesting. All in all, I ABSOLUTELY trust that Belichick will, far more often than not, and far more often than every other coach, make the right decisions for this team and put it in great position to compete for a championship.

I believe a lack of understanding for that phrase, willful or otherwise, is part of what causes a lot of the friction here.
he's definitely should get the benefit of the doubt. he's done so much for this team and so much for this franchise. however, there are a number on this board that don't like it if you criticize him because some how they think he is beyond criticism.
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I BELIEVE

Belichick is deserving of our trust.

Belichick was outcoached last weekend.

The offense would be better off with a better OC, and certainly one that doesn't use the same no-huddle formation for the entire game, using wristbands for everyone and whiteboards for communication.

We'll know a lot more about this season's patriots by the time the bye comes around.
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I'm not sure whether you want us to give Belichick a pass on this past week and even the season since we have certainly done better than any other team since Belichick arrived.

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It has somehow become vogue to consider fans who have confidence in BB blind, ignorant, unthinking homers. While those that question him, doubt him, and expect the worst, are simply being realists.
Consider this:
In the last 8 years"
1 time we lacked talent to compete (2002)
1 time we lost our GOAT QB
In the other 6 seasons with everything else that got in the way, with all of the criticisms of scheme, play calling, coordinators, drafting, etc, etc there were 6 other seasons
5 were at least to the AFFC (4 to the Sb, and 3 SB wins)
1 was a divisional round loss in the year we tried to 3peat when Bruschi had a stroke

Given that we do not lack talent, as in 2002, and Brady is at QB, history says 5/6th of the time we advance at least to the AFCC with a great shot at winning it, and a great shot at winning the next one, and 1/6th of the time, we only advance to the divisional round.

Explain to me again why believing in BB is the unthinking (Koolaid slurping) approach and doubting him is the well thought out reasoned one.
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