Lombardi on Seymour trade - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2009, 11:07 AM   #1
SVN
All Pro Poster
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 19,190
Default Lombardi on Seymour trade

Diner news: Acquiring Seymour risky move for Raiders - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
this is interesting...
Quote:
With sixth-round pick Myron Pyror playing well (even getting calls from other teams checking his availability)
SVN is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 09-07-2009, 11:13 AM   #2
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: RI
Posts: 229
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

We saw Pryor run with the 1s in preseason. Brace is looking promising. Green and Wright are very capable backups/spot-starters (Green in particular, who in the past has shown nice flashes). Even without adding a player, the Pats will approach Seymour's absence with a "DL by committee" approach. They'll even have TBC and Burgess up there for certain formations, I'm sure. If everyone stays healthy, they can compensate for his loss. It will be interesting when we review this gamble at the end of the season to see if it paid off or not. All I know is, Belichick would be a hell of a lot of fun to watch, if you sent him to Foxwoods with a stack of black chips...
JD10367 is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:13 AM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
MoLewisrocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 19,949
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

I found this even more interesting:

Quote:
Seymour is still talented and can still be effective, but he's very inconsistent. He's a flash player, and if you grade the flashes, he can be disruptive, but there are times when he's not a factor on the field.

For this move to work, Seymour has to play at a high level, and the Raiders must re-sign him. Giving up a one for a player for potentially only one year is not a good move, even in the eyes of diehard Raiders fans. At first, this deal was being framed around a two in 2010, but it moved to a one because the Raiders wanted to keep their draft alive next year.
MoLewisrocks is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:19 AM   #4
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
Fencer's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,392
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Re At first, this deal was being framed around a two in 2010, but it moved to a one because the Raiders wanted to keep their draft alive next year.

If he's right that the Pats were willing to trade Seymour for, say, two 2nds, that somewhat (not entirely) supports mgteich's perception of the value the Pats were willing to accept for him.


__________________
"To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness." -- Oscar Wilde
Fencer is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:23 AM   #5
Moderatrix
 
patchick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 10,320
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fencer View Post
Re At first, this deal was being framed around a two in 2010, but it moved to a one because the Raiders wanted to keep their draft alive next year.

If he's right that the Pats were willing to trade Seymour for, say, two 2nds, that somewhat (not entirely) supports mgteich's perception of the value the Pats were willing to accept for him.
If he's right, it also completely undercuts all the claims that the 2011 pick was based on the likelihood of a rookie pay scale, or that it shows that the Pats expect a lockout.
patchick is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:27 AM   #6
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,637
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Quote:
Originally Posted by patchick View Post
If he's right, it also completely undercuts all the claims that the 2011 pick was based on the likelihood of a rookie pay scale, or that it shows that the Pats expect a lockout.
There is so much speculation... it is impossible to know the truth, because BB is the Fort Knox of coaches. That's why we like him (not because he's pretty, obv).
farn is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:33 AM   #7
Moderatrix
 
patchick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 10,320
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Quote:
Originally Posted by farn View Post
There is so much speculation... it is impossible to know the truth, because BB is the Fort Knox of coaches. That's why we like him (not because he's pretty, obv).
It's kind of fun to read all the quotes from anonymous "league sources" trying to read deep into the BB tea leaves.

Here's what we can say with authority:

- Bill Belichick traded Richard Seymour, and did not trade Vince Wilfork.
- Bill Belichick thinks Oakland's #1 pick in 2011 is worth more than Richard Seymour's 2009 season + a potential comp pick.
patchick is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #8
JSn
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
JSn's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,449
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

If anyone had thoughts that would get us nearer the truth, it would be Mike.

His objective view of Seymour and that little note about Pryor causing phone calls, are solid parts to an article by someone I think always brings good insight and objectivity to football analysis.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JSn is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #9
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
MoLewisrocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 19,949
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fencer View Post
Re At first, this deal was being framed around a two in 2010, but it moved to a one because the Raiders wanted to keep their draft alive next year.

If he's right that the Pats were willing to trade Seymour for, say, two 2nds, that somewhat (not entirely) supports mgteich's perception of the value the Pats were willing to accept for him.


That was one 2nd not two.
MoLewisrocks is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:39 AM   #10
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 720
My Mood: Mellow
Default Re: Lombardi on Seymour trade

Lombardi says the exact thing that always comes to mind when I think of Seymour - when he was on/motivated/whatever, he was a force out there. But many games he seemed totally invisible as well. I could usually tell early in the game; Seymour would be in the offensive backfield all the time on his 'good' days, it seemed.

I don't know for sure the problem was entirely Seymour's motivation either; maybe it was the scheme the Pats were playing vs some opponents, maybe it was the opposing OL, who really knows. But his play seemed awfully inconsistent to me.
PrairiePat is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Speculation of the Seymour Trade mgteich PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 25 09-07-2009 09:19 PM
Breer breaks down the Seymour trade SVN PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 68 09-07-2009 09:59 AM
So about that Seymour for Peppers trade talk back in March??/ Sean Pa Patriot PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 7 09-07-2009 02:14 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC