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Old 08-28-2009, 02:32 PM   #1
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Jason Cole's recent article suggests that Marvin Harrison isn't just a prima donna. Many NFL receivers are prima donnas with attitude problems Cole suggests that Harrison may be in a special level of egoism that is preventing any NFL team from showing interest. According to Cole, Harrison did not even get along with Peyton Manning, at least during the past few years:

Cleverly hidden for years behind Harrison’s Garbo routine is that he and quarterback Peyton Manning didn’t get along, which could be the fault of either player.
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Harrison has been deemed to be just as much a diva as a number of other receivers – without the high-profile public displays. That said, it allegedly annoyed plenty of people, which is why the Colts ultimately cut ties with him in the offseason.


Unemployed Harrison generating little interest - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Additionally, Harrison has been linked to off-field problems, such as assaulting a 15-year old kid at the pro bowl ( Pro Bowl player accused of assault | The Honolulu Advertiser | Hawaii's Newspaper ) , and more recently, a shooting involving his own gun ( Marvin Harrison Shooting )

Remarkably, the perception of Harrison for years was that of a model NFL citizen, in some ways the anti-Moss, a quiet, unassuming workhorse who quietly re-wrote the record books (or at least put his name under the name of Jerry Rice.) Harrison has been blameless by the media... a sickening double standard that shows the power of perception created by the media.

ESPN barely touched on the Harrison shooting story, or the pro-bowl assault. Meanwhile, Randy Moss' career has chronicled as if he were a criminal waiting to be unleashed, the ultimate spoiled jerk with off-field problems.

What exactly has Moss done that makes such a villain, while Harrison is untouched by the "objective" sports writers?

Moss admitted to smoking marijuana (which probably 30-35% of the population does in private.) For this he was skewered to no end.

Moss dogged in the Oakland with a bunch of third-stringers throwing to him. Cole writes in his article that Harrison was whining even back in 2006, with perennial pro-bowler Peyton Manning throwing to him, because he wasn't getting the ball enough. Yet, which of these two generated a tsunami-sized tidal wave on ESPN for an entire year due to lack of effort?

Moss insulted a police officer during a traffic stop. Harrison chest-bumped a Jets employee who threw a ball in his direction. Did anyone care about Harrison?

One of them, a 23-year-old Long Islander named Matt Prior, threw a ball downfield that bounced near Harrison. According to a New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority report—and two people on the field—No. 88 felt the toss violated his personal space. He charged Prior, bumping him in the chest.

Assael, Keating: The other side of Marvin Harrison - ESPN The Magazine

For whatever reason, Randy Moss has earned the reputation of being a thug and a horrible teammate. Marvin Harrison has gotten away with transgressions that were worse than Moss'. As ESPN Shaun Assell concluded his article on the gun investigation:

In the end, the seeming contradiction between Harrison's statements about his gun and ballistics tests placing the gun at the scene were not enough for Abraham to move forward. So Harrison can sit back in his beach chair on West Thompson Street and keep watch on his block.

Meanwhile, around the Philly courthouse, the case still has buzz. "What do you think about the Harrison case?" a clerk recently asked a cop in the case. The officer did not hesitate to answer.

"Looks like Marvin caught another pass."
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:42 PM   #2
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I have heard on multiple occassions that Harrison was a complete loner and players who had played with him for years barely knew him. When he came off the field, he would sit at the end of the bench by himself and not talk to anyone. He never participated in any off the field team activities and would shower and change and bolt as fast he could after games. He was not a popular teammate.

Personally, I blame him if there was a rift between him and Manning. Eventhough Manning intentially or unintentially threw his offensive line under the bus once (personally, based on the full interview, he was kinda goated into it because the reporters were asking a bunch of leading questions to get him to say anything to point the finger), Manning seems to be a likeable guy who gets long with his teammates (Brady considers him a good friend in the league). I have never gotten that impression about Harrison.

As for Randy, even when he was a trouble maker (or at least labeled as one) he was considered popular in the lockerroom.
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Harrison probally doesnt want to mix buisness with pleasure. Some of the people I work with, I dont think I would ever hang out with them outside work.
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Jason Cole's recent article suggests that Marvin Harrison isn't just a prima donna. Many NFL receivers are prima donnas with attitude problems Cole suggests that Harrison may be in a special level of egoism that is preventing any NFL team from showing interest. According to Cole, Harrison did not even get along with Peyton Manning, at least during the past few years:

Cleverly hidden for years behind Harrison’s Garbo routine is that he and quarterback Peyton Manning didn’t get along, which could be the fault of either player.
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Harrison has been deemed to be just as much a diva as a number of other receivers – without the high-profile public displays. That said, it allegedly annoyed plenty of people, which is why the Colts ultimately cut ties with him in the offseason.


Unemployed Harrison generating little interest - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Additionally, Harrison has been linked to off-field problems, such as assaulting a 15-year old kid at the pro bowl ( Pro Bowl player accused of assault | The Honolulu Advertiser | Hawaii's Newspaper ) , and more recently, a shooting involving his own gun ( Marvin Harrison Shooting )

Remarkably, the perception of Harrison for years was that of a model NFL citizen, in some ways the anti-Moss, a quiet, unassuming workhorse who quietly re-wrote the record books (or at least put his name under the name of Jerry Rice.) Harrison has been blameless by the media... a sickening double standard that shows the power of perception created by the media.

ESPN barely touched on the Harrison shooting story, or the pro-bowl assault. Meanwhile, Randy Moss' career has chronicled as if he were a criminal waiting to be unleashed, the ultimate spoiled jerk with off-field problems.

What exactly has Moss done that makes such a villain, while Harrison is untouched by the "objective" sports writers?

Moss admitted to smoking marijuana (which probably 30-35% of the population does in private.) For this he was skewered to no end.

Moss dogged in the Oakland with a bunch of third-stringers throwing to him. Cole writes in his article that Harrison was whining even back in 2006, with perennial pro-bowler Peyton Manning throwing to him, because he wasn't getting the ball enough. Yet, which of these two generated a tsunami-sized tidal wave on ESPN for an entire year due to lack of effort?

Moss insulted a police officer during a traffic stop. Harrison chest-bumped a Jets employee who threw a ball in his direction. Did anyone care about Harrison?

One of them, a 23-year-old Long Islander named Matt Prior, threw a ball downfield that bounced near Harrison. According to a New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority report—and two people on the field—No. 88 felt the toss violated his personal space. He charged Prior, bumping him in the chest.

Assael, Keating: The other side of Marvin Harrison - ESPN The Magazine

For whatever reason, Randy Moss has earned the reputation of being a thug and a horrible teammate. Marvin Harrison has gotten away with transgressions that were worse than Moss'. As ESPN Shaun Assell concluded his article on the gun investigation:

In the end, the seeming contradiction between Harrison's statements about his gun and ballistics tests placing the gun at the scene were not enough for Abraham to move forward. So Harrison can sit back in his beach chair on West Thompson Street and keep watch on his block.

Meanwhile, around the Philly courthouse, the case still has buzz. "What do you think about the Harrison case?" a clerk recently asked a cop in the case. The officer did not hesitate to answer.

"Looks like Marvin caught another pass."

1st i've heard of the events outside the Louis Vutton store. Sounds like they settled out of court.....
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Harrison probally doesnt want to mix buisness with pleasure. Some of the people I work with, I dont think I would ever hang out with them outside work.
I know exactly what you mean ! Sometimes it is better to keep your personal life away from business relationships
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Marvin made Peyton look good on a lot of bad throws. For a number of years.

Whether in a dome or under a retractable roof.
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Marvin made Peyton look good on a lot of bad throws. For a number of years.

Whether in a dome or under a retractable roof.


Yeah, especially this one (arguably his greatest Catch ever) at Gillette Stadium, followed by a beautiful spike in Vrabel's face

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Yeah, especially this one (arguably his greatest Catch ever) at Gillette Stadium, followed by a beautiful spike in Vrabel's face

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Randy's catch against the Jets last year was not only better...but more dramatic. I still enjoy watching that game even though the Jets beat the Patriots (third stringers).
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