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Old 08-12-2009, 05:14 PM   #11
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7. The pats 50 years from now will only be known for 1 thing and one thing only, spygate. Until Bill is gone, it'll be the case. They could 19-0 this year and people will still cast the doubts.

If Barry Bonds was still playing, people would only look at him as a cheater, that's just the way it goes.
It's just the haters that are still stuck on it. The rest of the normal sports world, by and large, has gotten past it. Nice first post, though. I'm guessing you aren't a fan of our beloved Pats.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:06 PM   #12
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7. The pats 50 years from now will only be known for 1 thing and one thing only, spygate. Until Bill is gone, it'll be the case. They could 19-0 this year and people will still cast the doubts.

If Barry Bonds was still playing, people would only look at him as a cheater, that's just the way it goes.
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It's just the haters that are still stuck on it. The rest of the normal sports world, by and large, has gotten past it.
If it wasn't for the videotaping, he's still be whining about the Tuck Rule. The jealous will never forget and will never fail to bring it up, unless something newer comes along. Who cares?
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This is a good thread. Thanks you, OP, for your random thoughts.
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History doesn't always record the real story. Somewhere along the line stories get repeated often enough they are considered to be fact. And stories that get repeated are the ones that sell - whether it was the story of Christopher Columbus in your school books back when you were in elementary school, or the way the media reported spygate 18-24 months ago. Maybe not the best example, but hopefully you get my drift.

In my opinion fifty years from now the 2007 season will be remembered for the Pats going 18-0 and then losing the Super Bowl, rather than spygate. Since that game, which of those two stories have other fans latched on to the most? Those looking for a negative spin will point at the Pats losing; those looking for a positive story talk about David Tyree.

Spygate morphed into a huge story in large part because of the fact the Pats were not losing any games. In hindsight I really think it would never had become as big a deal as it did had the Pats lost one or two games during the regular season. Conversely, had the Pats beaten the Giants then spygate would still be a huge story now.

Bottom line is that neither 16-0 nor spygate will be the number one story remembered fifty years from now; instead, it will be the Tyree catch.
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7. Fifty years from now, football fans will know more about the 2007 Patriots than the three Super Bowl winners because that’s the team that did what no one else had done before: 16-0. The haters make light of this – that’s to be expected. Sadly, too many diehard fans do not fully appreciate the enormity of the accomplishment.

8. Can’t wait to see TB play again. 9/14 is going to be an EVENT. The best time of the year is right around the corner. Let the good times roll …
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7. Fifty years from now, football fans will know more about the 2007 Patriots than the three Super Bowl winners because that’s the team that did what no one else had done before: waste a 16-0 regular season by not closing the deal & securing their place in history.
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2. This shapes up to be an unusually deep team. In training camp, depth means competition for roster spots and playing time. As the season wears on, depth has been a huge factor in the success of Belichick’s Patriots over the last nine years. The team that takes the field in September is not the same team that competes in December, January and (we hope) February. BB understands this better than anyone – it’s one of the reasons that his teams improve as the season progresses.
The definition of "depth" gets used to loosely around people on this board or fans in general. However, you summed it up perfectly. For a team to have "depth", is to have backups that are almost as good as the team's starters. Therefore, when an injury occurs, the drop off isn't dramatic.

Okay, now here's my point. The above quote will pretty much determine the Pats fate this season. Just like it has determined the Pats fate the last 4 seasons. From '05-'08, the Pats have lacked any depth at LB and their secondary. However, this may be their lucky season. The Pats have added former starters such as Bodden, Springs, Lenon and Burgess and drafted heavily on defense in the past two seasons. In the end, the depth on both sides on the ball will decide whether or not the Pats will win their 4th super bowl trophy.

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The definition of "depth" gets used to loosely around people on this board or fans in general. However, you summed it up perfectly. For a team to have "depth", is to have backups that are almost as good as the team's starters. Therefore, when an injury occurs, the drop off isn't dramatic.

Okay, now here's my point. The above quote will pretty much determine the Pats fate this season. Just like it has determined the Pats fate the last 4 seasons. From '05-'08, the Pats have lacked any depth at LB and their secondary. However, this may be their lucky season. The Pats have added former starters such as Bodden, Springs, Lenon and Burgess and drafted heavily on defense in the past two seasons. In the end, the depth on both sides on the ball will decide whether or not the Pats will win their 4th super bowl trophy.
Well the fact of the matter is that NO team EVER has enough depth at EVERY position, given the 53 man roster, the 45 man game day roster, and the cap. The Pats, this season may enter it with the most depth they've had....ever, but they are still thin in some positions. You just have to pick and choose WHERE you will be deep, and where you think you can afford to be thin. And injuries can change everything in a nanosecond. Just ask the Red Sox about having too much starting pitching.
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Who can forget a drunken Joe Namath exclaiming:"We did it,we really did it",after his beloved New Jersey Jets won the 2009 OTA award for the 25th straight season.
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In certain situations, you kind of appreciate a "jet" going down in flames, especially the "gasbag" variety.
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