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Old 07-01-2009, 08:11 PM   #1
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What's up with that? Now he's treating TE's like LB's and picking up vets instead of drafting 3 a year?
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:29 PM   #2
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Might not have liked the draft pool. Might have rated other positions higher need this year. Might have liked what he already had or gotten a trade offer too good to pass up. Might have prefered the free agent pool. Frankly I've never been a fan of the constant drafting of TEs, I'd rather the picks get used on other positions than on one that has a log jam or that is already set with starters and backup like TE.
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They've wanted versatile tight ends all along and have acquired quite a few by both methods. Seems they're still trying to find the best way to get value at the position IMO.
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As everything I have ever read from BB, the TEs make the offense versatile. A TE who can block AND receive well will cause matchup problems for the defense. IE If they bring in a light LB, bring in the TE to block. If they bring in a heavy LB, send the TE out on a pattern.

What I think has happened, that BB never expected to happen, is that the pure passing is good enough that you can't really defend it without over-committing. In effect, Randy Moss forces the defense to put another light defender (nickel back) on the field. IE, if you try to play honest, the pass will beat you. If you play pass, the run will beat you. If you play the run, god help you. This way, BB gets versatility out of his offense without needing to get it from the TE.

That's why I think the TE spot is now less of a priority.
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As everything I have ever read from BB, the TEs make the offense versatile. A TE who can block AND receive well will cause matchup problems for the defense. IE If they bring in a light LB, bring in the TE to block. If they bring in a heavy LB, send the TE out on a pattern.

What I think has happened, that BB never expected to happen, is that the pure passing is good enough that you can't really defend it without over-committing. In effect, Randy Moss forces the defense to put another light defender (nickel back) on the field. IE, if you try to play honest, the pass will beat you. If you play pass, the run will beat you. If you play the run, god help you. This way, BB gets versatility out of his offense without needing to get it from the TE.

That's why I think the TE spot is now less of a priority.
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What's up with that? Now he's treating TE's like LB's and picking up vets instead of drafting 3 a year?
I don't recall BB ever drafting more than 2 in a year.
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BB touched on the Tight End position at the Belichick dinner a few weeks ago and he had some interesting things to say.

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he was talking about how hard it is to find TE who can block and catch well. He was saying they usually do one much better than the other. And he said that the key is getting a group that can do it all.


Now my own comments combining what he said and the premise of the thread. I think with his noting how difficult it is he thought it would be possible to get one who does it all in rd one and while both were pretty good at both each clearly excelled more in one area than the other. So now maybe he has decided throwing 1s at the position doesn't neccessarily guarentee a great all around TE.

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he did mention top to bottom he thought this is one of the most talented groups of TEs he has worked with.
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BB touched on the Tight End position at the Belichick dinner a few weeks ago and he had some interesting things to say.

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he was talking about how hard it is to find TE who can block and catch well. He was saying they usually do one much better than the other. And he said that the key is getting a group that can do it all.


Now my own comments combining what he said and the premise of the thread. I think with his noting how difficult it is he thought it would be possible to get one who does it all in rd one and while both were pretty good at both each clearly excelled more in one area than the other. So now maybe he has decided throwing 1s at the position doesn't neccessarily guarentee a great all around TE.

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he did mention top to bottom he thought this is one of the most talented groups of TEs he has worked with.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any tight end in the league that is known as both excellent at blocking and an excellent receiver. Can anyone?
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Off the top of my head, I can't think of any tight end in the league that is known as both excellent at blocking and an excellent receiver. Can anyone?
Jason Witten.....
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Jason Witten.....
He's not a great blocker, although he's not bad. He's about as close as I could think of, though, so we were at least on the same page.
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