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Belichick might be fine with our current 45 man roster. Sure, some of these can be beat out, but the roster fights are primarily for the other EIGHT roster spots. The 45 man roster includes the players who will get almost all the reps, even with injuries to key players. There is plenty of room for the upgrade among the ten roster spots not included, as well as to the players below. That being said, we probably have the best team ever going into the draft.
The last active spot depends on game plan. Even the ones below are not always active. For example, sometimes we have only five defensive linemen active.
SPECIALISTS (6)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Hodel
ST (3) Slater, Ventrone, Lewis
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For all the reasons you illustrated, this draft, like few others could see us taking anyone, anywhere... while ,ost prognosticators have us taking an LB or other defensive player one can't rule out any position and some mock drafts have the Pats taking an RB like Knowshon Moreno or Don Brown.
Anything's possible. Ultimately I can see Belichick using his picks to increase the value for future years when he can trade draft picks to grab proven veteran players like Moss and Welker.
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Hmm. You're effectively implying the dime package contains 4 CBs. I'm fine with that.
You don't have a goal-line FB other than Hochstein, but he fits.
You don't have a #3 TE at all, given that Vrabel isn't on the team any more, but hey -- you only counted up to 43. So Dave Thomas or somebody could still be active on game days.
Yes, I'm implying that the five corners listed could cover both nickel and dime duties. For purists who must have three safeties listed, Springs can be considered the #3 safety. Yes, this is core team, a 3rd TE could still be added for game days.
One reason for me not considering the 3rd TE in the core group is that over half the posters here have a TE being drafted by us in the early rounds.
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Originally Posted by Fencer
Hmm. You're effectively implying the dime package contains 4 CBs. I'm fine with that.
You don't have a goal-line FB other than Hochstein, but he fits.
You don't have a #3 TE at all, given that Vrabel isn't on the team any more, but hey -- you only counted up to 43. So Dave Thomas or somebody could still be active on game days.
Belichick might be fine with our current 43 man roster. Sure, some of these can be beat out, but the roster fights are primarily for the other TEN roster spots. The 43 man roster includes the players who will get almost all the reps, even with injuries to key players. There is plenty of room for the upgrade among the ten roster spots not included, as well as to the players below. That being said, we probably have the best team ever going into the draft.
Please note that this is a 43 man roster. TEN more players will make the 53-man roster. The two linebackers that would go are among those who would be competing for the last two spots. In this scenario, Redd, Ruud, Craig and Alexander would be gone.
In my estimation, Tank Williams is also not one of the top 43 players on the team. There is room on my roster for two more defensive backs. Tank Williams might be one of the two, or not.
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Originally Posted by RayClay
I bet two of those linebackers never make the team. Don't know which two, but if they hit anything in the draft somebody has to go.
The open 10 roster spots are
QB
RB
TE
OT
OG/C
DL
ILB
OLB
SS
FS
Clearly, there is no magic formula for roster position. We could keep more or less at a given position. This is just one scenario. For example, we could keep one less safety or move a safety over from corner, freeing a spot for a corner. We could keep one less special teamer and fill the spot elsewhere.
Also, as I indicated, the players on my 43 man roster could be beaten out by draftees or players not listed. That addition would be in addition to the ten listed above.
Finally, ALL the above positions currently have players on the roster. To say it another way, we would have ALL those positions filled with current roster players if the season started tomorrow. We don't HAVE TO find players at any position.
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Originally Posted by mgteich
Belichick might be fine with our current 43 man roster. Sure, some of these can be beat out, but the roster fights are primarily for the other TEN roster spots. The 43 man roster includes the players who will get almost all the reps, even with injuries to key players. There is plenty of room for the upgrade among the ten roster spots not included, as well as to the players below. That being said, we probably have the best team ever going into the draft.
45 game-day actives (since you didn't have a #3 QB on your list, it's not 45+1).
You're short 1 WR, 1 TE, and 1 DL for a game-day active list, unless one of Slater/Ventrone steps up for Aiken-like WR reps, or is replaced by somebody who does.
In this scenario, Redd, Ruud, Craig and Alexander would be gone.
Nothing shocking there.
With no offensive needs except maybe line, two young safeties, three young cornerbacks, a couple decent vets acquired at cb/safety, why would anyone think the patriots would hold onto marginal linevbackers when they can draft or acquire some rel talent for the future.
I like Crable, but he might be just a designated rusher, we don't know. I think Thomas and Mayo are it and everyone else is competition for whoever we draft or acquire.
If that's not the case, I really have to wonder what their plan is. Maybe they get a DE in case Seymour leaves, but that still leaves a bunch of prime picks to finally turn over the linebacking corps.
The fact that they gave Vrabel away tells me they think it's time. Of course they are picky about linebackers, but i have to think they have some in mind.