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AzPatsFan · 12-23-2008, 09:44 PM

Judging from the hysteria and general abysmal idiocy of the average Jets fan, and their insufferable overweening provincialism with NY as the center of the Universe, Mangini has no possibility of NOT being fired.

[Mod Edit: Political statement - Infraction - Poster has been around long enough to know the rules]

I now fully see why BB wrote that terse note: "I resign as the HC of NYJ".

It's a no-win situation, and a poisonous environment that makes it impossible to exist for even a good coach. Cower coached for 15 years, and won one Superbowl. He got to maybe 10-12 playoffs, and a couple of conference championship games. For the Jetski's anything other than the 1 in 15 record, the SB victory, would lead to demands that he be fired too, as soon as the fickle fans tired, and sought new novelty.

Consider this: The Ratgina will have produced a 10 win, and a 9 or 10 win season, in two of his three years, and is loathed as a hopeless incompetent, and teh focus of all that is wrong with the Team. They demand his firing. What does a guy have to do?

The Jetski's say they have a fine team of 7 pro-bowlers, ignoring the NY celebrity bias of the media, contributing to their selections. Many got there living off long past reputations. Most of whom were imported for big FA contracts, because they were team cancers, and/or their old team didn't want them for whatever reason. I offer e.g. "Fats" Woody who can't control his weight. Or way, way, way, past his prime, undisciplined Brett F. Brett Favre, the previous early season designated Messiah, is acting like a typical 40 year old QB. He looks like he just ran out of gas after about 8 or 9 games, as is to be expected. That is simple "Over-the-Hill-itis".

The doofuses Jetskis can't see that, yet it obvious to anybody else.

These ding-a-ling fans assume that ANY body would jump at the chance to go to the Jets. They don't even see that most coaches look for an Opportunity. Coaching the Jets (or the Cardinals) is more akin to a Sentence, instead.

Besides they are now facing a CAP situation being projected to be OVER for next year by $26 million or so, and are a Team totally without a QB, in spite of that monstrous figure. What competent or even semi-competent Coach wants into that?

slash83 · 12-23-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan

Judging from the hysteria and general abysmal idiocy of the average Jets fan, and their insufferable overweening provincialism with NY as the center of the Universe, Mangini has no possibility of NOT being fired.

[Edit]

I now fully see why BB wrote that terse note: "I resign as the HC of NYJ".

It's a no-win situation, and a poisonous environment that makes it impossible to exist for even a good coach. Cower coached for 15 years, and won one Superbowl. He got to maybe 10-12 playoffs, and a couple of conference championship games. For the Jetski's anything other than the 1 in 15 record, the SB victory, would lead to demands that he be fired too, as soon as the fickle fans tired, and sought new novelty.

Consider this: The Ratgina will have produced a 10 win, and a 9 or 10 win season, in two of his three years, and is loathed as a hopeless incompetent, and teh focus of all that is wrong with the Team. They demand his firing. What does a guy have to do?

The Jetski's say they have a fine team of 7 pro-bowlers, ignoring the NY celebrity bias of the media, contributing to their selections. Many got there living off long past reputations. Most of whom were imported for big FA contracts, because they were team cancers, and/or their old team didn't want them for whatever reason. I offer e.g. "Fats" Woody who can't control his weight. Or way, way, way, past his prime, undisciplined Brett F. Brett Favre, the previous early season designated Messiah, is acting like a typical 40 year old QB. He looks like he just ran out of gas after about 8 or 9 games, as is to be expected. That is simple "Over-the-Hill-itis".

The doofuses Jetskis can't see that, yet it obvious to anybody else.

These ding-a-ling fans assume that ANY body would jump at the chance to go to the Jets. They don't even see that most coaches look for an Opportunity. Coaching the Jets (or the Cardinals) is more akin to a Sentence, instead.

Besides they are now facing a CAP situation being projected to be OVER for next year by $26 million or so, and are a Team totally without a QB, in spite of that monstrous figure. What competent or even semi-competent Coach wants into that?

Always good to know that sorry franchise is going downhill fast. Nice post man...

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 12-23-2008, 10:06 PM

Last offseason was desperation mode for the Jets. Everyone knows that. The team is built to win now and what I mean by now is this season (2008-2009) or never. I wouldn't be suprised if Favre wanted to play again next season but come on. Favre needs to realize that if his Jets can't make the playoffs playing in a divsion with Tom Brady sidelined since week 1 and the Dolphins coming off a 1-15 season, it will never happen and it's time to hang it up. Brady will be back next season, the Pats should have a strong draft, fill some holes in free agency and dominate the divsion come next season. If I'm the owner of the Jets after spending all of that money in free agency, drafting a workout warrior (Gholston), trading picks for Lord Favre and playing a division that should have been handed to them when Brady went down but miss the playoffs is embarrasing! Mangini will be fired if they miss the playoffs.

hyperpat · 12-23-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan

Judging from the hysteria and general abysmal idiocy of the average Jets fan, and their insufferable overweening provincialism with NY as the center of the Universe, Mangini has no possibility of NOT being fired.

[Mod edit: Political]

I now fully see why BB wrote that terse note: "I resign as the HC of NYJ".

It's a no-win situation, and a poisonous environment that makes it impossible to exist for even a good coach. Cower coached for 15 years, and won one Superbowl. He got to maybe 10-12 playoffs, and a couple of conference championship games. For the Jetski's anything other than the 1 in 15 record, the SB victory, would lead to demands that he be fired too, as soon as the fickle fans tired, and sought new novelty.

Consider this: The Ratgina will have produced a 10 win, and a 9 or 10 win season, in two of his three years, and is loathed as a hopeless incompetent, and teh focus of all that is wrong with the Team. They demand his firing. What does a guy have to do?

The Jetski's say they have a fine team of 7 pro-bowlers, ignoring the NY celebrity bias of the media, contributing to their selections. Many got there living off long past reputations. Most of whom were imported for big FA contracts, because they were team cancers, and/or their old team didn't want them for whatever reason. I offer e.g. "Fats" Woody who can't control his weight. Or way, way, way, past his prime, undisciplined Brett F. Brett Favre, the previous early season designated Messiah, is acting like a typical 40 year old QB. He looks like he just ran out of gas after about 8 or 9 games, as is to be expected. That is simple "Over-the-Hill-itis".

The doofuses Jetskis can't see that, yet it obvious to anybody else.

These ding-a-ling fans assume that ANY body would jump at the chance to go to the Jets. They don't even see that most coaches look for an Opportunity. Coaching the Jets (or the Cardinals) is more akin to a Sentence, instead.

Besides they are now facing a CAP situation being projected to be OVER for next year by $26 million or so, and are a Team totally without a QB, in spite of that monstrous figure. What competent or even semi-competent Coach wants into that?

Not a bad post,

MOD EDIT: The political statement has been handled by the moderators.

***fgssand*** · 12-23-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by THEARCHIVES

Last offseason was desperation mode for the Jets. Everyone knows that. The team is built to win now and what I mean by now is this season (2008-2009) or never. I wouldn't be suprised if Favre wanted to play again next season but come on. Favre needs to realize that if his Jets can't make the playoffs playing in a divsion with Tom Brady sidelined since week 1 and the Dolphins coming off a 1-15 season, it will never happen and it's time to hang it up. Brady will be back next season, the Pats should have a strong draft, fill some holes in free agency and dominate the divsion come next season. If I'm the owner of the Jets after spending all of that money in free agency, drafting a workout warrior (Gholston), trading picks for Lord Favre and playing a division that should have been handed to them when Brady went down but miss the playoffs is embarrasing! Mangini will be fired if they miss the playoffs.

On one hand, he has to win Sunday to save his job.....on the other hand, is there dissension that will make it impossible to do so??

BB tried hard to warn him, but he went on over to the dark-side anyway, you get what you deserve, RATGINA.

***BradyFTW!*** · 12-23-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hyperpat

Not a bad post, but take your political comments to the politics discussion. The guy hasn't even been inaugurated yet and you're trying to make him part of "scandal." Sheesh.

+1. Football and presidential politics have no overlap in the real world. Let's keep it that way.