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PatsFan2 · 12-15-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PittPatriot

What in the name of Garrett Mills is wrong with Dave Thomas? He is a little small but has great hands...I really thought he could be our future Dallas Clark.

Please when we mention the name Dallas Clark in comparison could we please compare him to real players.

Garrett Mills and most notably Dave Thomas aren't real players.

Ichiro · 12-15-2008, 11:10 AM

My problem with Watson is that he never improved.

I also see at as a failure of the Patriots scouting department. Watson is a smart guy, a physical specimen but not a football plater. He is always off balance and fights the ball. Did we not see these traits on film prior to the 04 draft? I thought the Patriots philosophy is to bring in football players, not guys with overwhelming physical skills but few football instincts. Watson (and to some extent C. Jackson and Maroney) challenge this philosophy.

Dagg · 12-15-2008, 12:24 PM

He sucks this year, way worse than last, however I say keep him I hate when we waste alot of draft picks fishing for a TE. bleh

***PittPatriot*** · 12-15-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiro

My problem with Watson is that he never improved.

I also see at as a failure of the Patriots scouting department. Watson is a smart guy, a physical specimen but not a football plater. He is always off balance and fights the ball. Did we not see these traits on film prior to the 04 draft? I thought the Patriots philosophy is to bring in football players, not guys with overwhelming physical skills but few football instincts. Watson (and to some extent C. Jackson and Maroney) challenge this philosophy.

I think CJ and LoMo probably looked great on college film.

Watson catches passes with his body and seems to tip/deflect balls often when it is a high/wide throw because he could not get his body in front. THAT had to be seen on college film...the size, speed and smarts cannot be ignored, but give me a tight end without hands...and what am I going to do with him?

***PittPatriot*** · 12-15-2008, 12:38 PM

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People here love to slam Watson at pretty much every chance they get. It may be that the Patriots agree with those who do this, but you sure can't tell that by looking at the snaps taken on offense. Taking the Raiders game as the latest example, Watson took as many snaps as any other runner/receiver on offense, taking the same 68 out of 71 that Moss and Welker took. The week before, Watson played 59 of 72 snaps.

I don't pretend to know what the Patriots brain trust really thinks about Watson. Judging by the numbers, though, it seems pretty clear that they either don't have an issue with him to the extent that many of the fans do, or they are willing to use him all game long anyway just to get the formations they want.

Good point. He is on the field pretty much in all packages and that shows confidence from BB/McD.

***KontradictioN*** · 12-15-2008, 12:40 PM

Eh, I still love Ben for the INT touchdown save he made in the divisional against Denver in '05 but watching him alligator arm a wide open pass over the middle because he was afraid to get hit was enough for me. I wouldn't lose sleep if we decided to spend a high draft pick on a tight end this offseason and let him walk.

***maverick4*** · 12-15-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiro

I thought the Patriots philosophy is to bring in football players, not guys with overwhelming physical skills but few football instincts. Watson (and to some extent C. Jackson and Maroney) challenge this philosophy.

Keep McDaniels out of the draft room. Go back to spending high picks in the trenches and on DEFENSE.

***maverick4*** · 12-15-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PittPatriot

Good point. He is on the field pretty much in all packages and that shows confidence from BB/McD.

Gaffney plays a ton of snaps too, it doesn't mean he's a starting quality WR.

Watson is our best tight end and we need one for a lot of formations, that is why he is used.

tombonneau · 12-15-2008, 12:50 PM

Watson is a slightly above average TE. No more, no less. He won't be cut from the team, and yes, they could try to improve at the position, but so could 75% of the teams in the league because there are few upper-end TEs. The fact is, the current incarnation of the Pats' offense doesn't overly rely on the TE, so I can't see them breaking the bank or spending a high draft pick for one.

It does suck that he seems to average about one "d'oh" play a game, but he still makes his fair share of plays which often gets overlooked in threads like this.

MrBigglesWorth · 12-15-2008, 01:21 PM

i'd love to see watson return a kick one of these days