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Old 12-12-2008, 05:09 PM   #31
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Default Re: Asante Samuel or Tom Brady - Whose loss has made a bigger difference?

Guy posing an interesting - albeit slightly off-the-wall & controversial - question that could spark some fun discussion and he's predictably pilloried by the PatsFans.com Thread Police.

As amazing as it sounds, the dropoff from Samuel to O'Neal at this point is great than the dropoff from Brady to Cassel.

Samuel=9
O'Neal=3

Brady=10
Cassel=7

Now what dropoff hurts the team more (the 6 pt plunge or 3 pt plunge) is an interesting debate, but certainly relative within their positions, the dropoff at CB has been more severe & noticeable as of late.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:09 PM   #32
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Default Re: Asante Samuel or Tom Brady - Whose loss has made a bigger difference?

Brady of course. Not even close. Samuel hasn't done much for the Eagles anyway.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:13 PM   #33
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This is such a no-brainer. Tom Brady.

Hes like Larry Bird was. When hes there, anything seems possible.

Asante Samuel?? He was good but I thought he was a little overated when he was here.

You cant compare a CB with the best QB in the NFL.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:37 PM   #34
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Let's see our offense went from...

2007: 36.9 points a game (1st in league)
2008: 23.2 points a game (18th in league)

Our pass defense (16th) is actually ranked higher than our offense this season.

YOU GO FROM THE GREATEST OFFENSE IN NFL HISTORY, TO THE 18TH RANKED JUST THIS YEAR. Figure it out.
A perfect illustration of how deceiving statistics can be.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:46 PM   #35
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You weren't struck by lightning the minute you hit "submit thread"?

Consider yourself lucky
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:41 PM   #36
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Tom Fricken Brady baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
not even close IMHO.

Samuel is really lighting it up down in philly
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:42 PM   #37
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I am going to go with Asante Samuel.

TB is great and all, but his replacement has been doing pretty damn good job. The same can't be said for the secondary particularly with RH out.

Rephrase the question to the following a magic genie gave you the following two options which would you choice:

A) Tom Brady comes back for the Raiders game and rest of the season. (Cassel gets benched, MG gets cut to make room)

or

B) Asante Samuel comes or the Raiders game and rest of the season. (your least favorite DB get cut to make room)

Which would you choose. For me the choice is easy we need more help on defense than QB.

TB is a great QB, but the falloff hasn't been horrible, the same can't be said in our secondary.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:44 PM   #38
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I am going to go with Asante Samuel.

TB is great and all, but his replacement has been doing pretty damn good job. The same can't be said for the secondary particularly with RH out.

Rephrase the question to the following a magic genie gave you the following two options which would you choice:

A) Tom Brady comes back for the Raiders game and rest of the season. (Cassel gets benched, MG gets cut to make room)

or

B) Asante Samuel comes or the Raiders game and rest of the season. (your least favorite DB get cut to make room)

Which would you choose. For me the choice is easy we need more help on defense than QB.

TB is a great QB, but the falloff hasn't been horrible, the same can't be said in our secondary.
I choose Brady all day.
Sorry, but Cassel is not close to Mr.Brady yet (yes, he deserves the respect of Mr. Brady) and probably never will be
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:00 PM   #39
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TB is a great QB, but the falloff hasn't been horrible, the same can't be said in our secondary.
This is true, but when you talk on a W-L basis, I think it's safe to say that having Brady would likely have us in control of a playoff bye at the least right now in an AFC which isn't nearly as great as it was last year. Probably can't say the same for having Asante, I'd imagine we're still fighting for our playoff lives right now. I doubt we'd go from 18-1 to barely being a WC team solely based on losing a Asante and Adalius for the final half, as good as they are. Also consider the upsides from this offseason - addition of Mayo/Guyton inside and Seymour being the healthiest he's been in years.

In theory, you are right. But when we're talking Tom Brady, it goes far beyond a couple of trade-offs.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:06 PM   #40
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Tom Brady. OK, now it's my turn....John Lennon or Boy George - Which one had a greater impact on music?
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