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Gicksauce · 11-18-2008, 08:22 PM

Even when Hobbs has been healthy he hasn't been any good

He would be a decent nickel back, but he's our #1 corner

You can throw to his receiver every single play because Hobbs is always camped out 5 yards behind him, and then half the time he'll miss the tackle and a safety will have to get him

Worst of all, he's admitted to listening to Phil Collins before every game to get him pumped up

who THE HELL listens to Phil Collins to get pumped up?

Gicksauce · 11-18-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSYLICIOUS

With the Pats, CB seems to be a position where it's more about your development within the system than your individual talent. I believe once Wheatley develops he's going to be a solid starter for us opposite Hobbs (if he is still here in a few years).

This sounds a lot like the "a rookie LB could never contribute to the Pats defense" thing, which obviously is a load of crap since Mayo has picked it right up

If they drafted a good smart CB he would do fine

Wheatley has terminator arms, he should be melted down and sold for scrap

***ausbacker*** · 11-18-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gicksauce

Even when Hobbs has been healthy he hasn't been any good

He would be a decent nickel back, but he's our #1 corner

You can throw to his receiver every single play because Hobbs is always camped out 5 yards behind him, and then half the time he'll miss the tackle and a safety will have to get him

Worst of all, he's admitted to listening to Phil Collins before every game to get him pumped up

who THE HELL listens to Phil Collins to get pumped up?

Do yourself a favour and think for a couple of minutes before you post something.

Gicksauce · 11-18-2008, 08:38 PM

Do yourself a favor and whenever you want to post, pull some Kraft cheese singles out of the fridge and start smacking yourself in the face with them while making barnyard animal noises

Record this on video and post it on youtube and link us to it

***slash83*** · 11-18-2008, 08:43 PM

Raiders are going to franchise Nhamdi again, send over two 1st rounders and pay the man.

PATS68 · 11-18-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

So, you have nothing but heresay as support? And heresay from ESPN, none the less.

Ok, when did Kings and Borges opinions become fact? The guy was reading from a stat sheet that many espn guys use. The stats seemed pretty solid and just not opinion.

I don't need to go and look under the Vrabel thread. I KNOW what I wrote. And no where did I say that Vrabel's ONLY job was to set the edge against the run.

You tried and tried to make an argument on why his sacks were down and your argument was he is setting the edge and his job has changed.

I am watching NFL replay as I am writing this and Vrable in playing Left OLB. Brad Smith just ran right by him. So much for job change.

*ROFLMAO* You think that my saying what Vrabel's responsibilities are is my putting myself in the meeting rooms? I am NOT the only person who has said Vrabel's job has changed. He's playing an entirely different position. Watch the friggin games and you'd see for yourself. Vrabel is lining up, primarily, at ROLB. Where Rosie Colvin lined up last year.

Who else, name and link. Again, watching NFL replay. Vrable's playing Left OLB.

Stats mean NOTHING without context. Demeco Ryans won rookie of the year for the Texans because of his stellar play. NOT just the number of tackles. And only the ignorant are talking about how many tackles Mayo has. The number of tackles doesn't matter if the opposing player got 10 yards on the play.

How many times have you seen coaches talk about missed tackles. One missed tackle can mean a TD. IE missed tackle O'Neil in 1st phins game TD. Stats mean everthing!!!!

BTW, why don't you email Ron Borges and find out how much weight he gives to the number of tackles a player made during their career when he decides who to vote for in the Hall of Fame voting?

Ron Borges who hates the coach and wrote that Randy Moss could not run anymore, that Ron Borges. Ron Borges who has lied several times in his writing.

You have to judge players on something and that something is stats. Wrs are judge on receptions and yards. RB's on yards.

I am asking you, what should you go on for the HOF?

In other words, you can't provide the quote and you just want me and everyone else to take what you say at face value? Sorry. Can't do it.

You gave me RON FREAKING BORGES as part of your argument. Need I say more.

Tackles don't matter. This is a bio of a HOF player. This is right from HOF web site.

Mike Singletary, was a second-round draft pick of the Chicago Bears in the 1981 NFL Draft and the 38th player selected overall. The only college junior to be selected to the All-SWC Team of the 1970s, Singletary earned All-America honors in both his junior and senior years at Baylor, where he averaged 15 tackles per game and established a team record with 232 tackles in 1978.

Singletary became a starter in the Bears lineup in the seventh game of his rookie season. In a game against the Kansas City Chiefs, his third as a starter, Singletary put on a remarkable defensive performance recording 10 tackles and forcing a fumble. A nearly unanimous all-rookie selection, Singletary went on to start 172 games for the Bears during his 12-year career, which is the second most in club history.

An intense player, Mike finished as the Bears’ first or second leading tackler each of his last 11 seasons. He amassed an impressive 1,488 career tackles, 885 of which were solo efforts. A constant force on defense, he missed playing just two games, both in 1986.

In a game against the Denver Broncos in 1990 he had a personal-best performance when he recorded 10 solo tackles and 10 assists. Selected to play in a team record 10 Pro Bowls, Singletary was All-Pro eight times, and All-NFC every year from 1983 until 1991.

The NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 1985 and 1988, Mike was the cornerstone of the Bears’ innovative 46-defense. In 1985, he led a Bears’ defense that allowed fewer than 11 points per game, as the team posted an impressive 15-1 record. He had 13 tackles and a sack in the playoffs leading up to the Bears’ 46-10 defeat of the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XX. The Bears’ league-leading defense held the Patriots to a record low seven yards rushing, while the hard-charging Singletary contributed with two fumble recoveries.

TACKLES WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

***nashvillepatsfan*** · 11-19-2008, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gicksauce

Do yourself a favor and whenever you want to post, pull some Kraft cheese singles out of the fridge and start smacking yourself in the face with them while making barnyard animal noises

Record this on video and post it on youtube and link us to it

Do us all a favor and restrict your threads, and posts to the Practice Squad forum. You're using space in the main forum that could be better used by people who actually know what they're talking about.

Gicksauce · 11-19-2008, 05:46 AM

Thank you for your contribution

You've really explained why the pats have never made a move to get a CB via the draft, free agency or a trade

***nashvillepatsfan*** · 11-19-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gicksauce

Thank you for your contribution

You've really explained why the pats have never made a move to get a CB via the draft, free agency or a trade

This post by you explains to everyone why YOU have nothing to contribute to this thread or any other. Are you really trying to tell me that they've never drafted a corner, becuase thats what your post says. Please read your posts before submitting them, and making yourself look like a fool. :banned:

***DaBruinz*** · 11-19-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gicksauce

This sounds a lot like the "a rookie LB could never contribute to the Pats defense" thing, which obviously is a load of crap since Mayo has picked it right up

If they drafted a good smart CB he would do fine

Wheatley has terminator arms, he should be melted down and sold for scrap

First off, no one said "a rookie LB could never contribute in to the Patriots defense." Its been said that it would take a very special rookie LB to contribute. Mayo and Guyton are those special types. They are the excpetions, not the rules.