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Old 11-17-2008, 10:50 PM   #21
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Did you lose money on the Steelers game? I'm just curious because you seem so mad.

Whether he lost money on the Steelers game is moot. The fact is that each and every week we are seeing gross egregious errors by the officials. The NFL, however, has proven it doesn't care. They proved that when they didn't address any of the officiating issues after the Pittsburgh/Seattle SB which saw Pitt, literally, handed the game because of bad calls.

The same thing happened in the Pitt game this week. As much I as Hate the Squeelers, they got jobbed at the end of the game.
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Whether he lost money on the Steelers game is moot. The fact is that each and every week we are seeing gross egregious errors by the officials. The NFL, however, has proven it doesn't care. They proved that when they didn't address any of the officiating issues after the Pittsburgh/Seattle SB which saw Pitt, literally, handed the game because of bad calls.

The same thing happened in the Pitt game this week. As much I as Hate the Squeelers, they got jobbed at the end of the game.
Yeah, I don't have a dog in this fight. I was just curious.

But I do agree that there is ALOT of room to improve the officiating in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
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THAT'S the point. He's not agreeing to a 2 year deal for short money and no starting position. What he IS agreeing to is to get $5MM RIGHT NOW, and allowing the Pats to have trading rights to a team who will give him the big money deal he's dreaming about. ASSUMING he remains healthy and playing well. BIG ASSUMPTION
You say big.

I ask how big??

Is there a 1% chance of him remaining healthy and playing well??

5%
10%

Because Cassel would, IMO, have to be a fool to agree to a deal that pays him $3 million in 2009. Let's say that the Pats find out in February that it is not 100% guaranteed that Brady will play in the 2009 season. What then stop the Pats from NOT trading Cassel and having him start for them for $3 million in 2009 and be an RFA in 2010??
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Great analysis, as usual, Ken. Here's my humble comments--
1. Haven't heard anyone trying to factor in the possibility of an uncapped year and the outcome of the contract talks into Cassel's future. Might he be more likely to stick around for one more year, with unlimited vistas on the horizon?

2. Have gone on record as being against full-time refs. I know a ref who is also an airline pilot. On the whole I think they do a great job. This always comes up whenever someone gets a hair cross-ways because of the outcome of some point spread. It's ridiculous.

3. My feelings about Felger are well-known. ( See below.)

4. 11-5, 10-6, I'd be satisfied with either, as this season is only going to make this team stronger. Neither would be a bad record for what will eventually be seen as a rebuilding year.
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You say big.

I ask how big??

Is there a 1% chance of him remaining healthy and playing well??

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Because Cassel would, IMO, have to be a fool to agree to a deal that pays him $3 million in 2009. Let's say that the Pats find out in February that it is not 100% guaranteed that Brady will play in the 2009 season. What then stop the Pats from NOT trading Cassel and having him start for them for $3 million in 2009 and be an RFA in 2010??
Ken's theory is plausible but his finances are not. As I sit here typing it's all Matt Cassel on NFLN, so the ship I launched may have sailed on an extention (which would have had to have been for 2 more years and at least $14M in guaranteed money from someone and apparently signed at least a week ago... )
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By the way -- after 8 or so years of not starting, I don't think Cassell is going to sign a contract that risks leaving him stuck as a backup for ANOTHER year.

Sorry. Our payoff for grooming him most likely begins and ends with:

A. A year of valuable service.
B. A comp draft pick.
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By the way -- after 8 or so years of not starting, I don't think Cassell is going to sign a contract that risks leaving him stuck as a backup for ANOTHER year.

Sorry. Our payoff for grooming him most likely begins and ends with:

A. A year of valuable service.
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Not sure I follow your logic. If he doesn't want to be a backup, and I agree with that, then he likely wouldn't sign the Franchise Tag and would, instead, find a team to be traded to.
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Did you lose money on the Steelers game? I'm just curious because you seem so mad.
Not at all..in fact I have never wagered on a game..When one sees call non-calls go in one direction...if one really cares about a football game, one would wonder. That was an atrocious game for the officials and one HAS to wonder is it incompetence or something deeper. That the NFL refuses to really look at what is going on with officials is a total disgrace. The passion is about a sport that is great but could be even better.
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Great analysis, as usual, Ken. Here's my humble comments--
1. Haven't heard anyone trying to factor in the possibility of an uncapped year and the outcome of the contract talks into Cassel's future. Might he be more likely to stick around for one more year, with unlimited vistas on the horizon?
Current cap room for all 32 teams (10/23/08) - KFFL Community

Teams are not using all of the cap now so IMO it does not really matter if 2010 will be uncapped in the sense that teams are currently squeezed by the cap.

Teams will be using the LTBE incentive move to push their unused 2008 cap space into 2009. Will there be teams with a lot of cap room in 2009??? Yes.
Here's why Cassel will not agree to a one-year deal at a low salary. He will be an UFA in 2009 and a RFA in 2010 if 2010 is uncapped. If he is a RFA in 2010, his tender amount will be the higher of
1.)110% of his 2009 salary
2.) $1,176,000 for the 2010 League Year for Right of First Refusal and Original Draft Round Compensation
$1,759,000 in the 2010 League Year for Right of First Refusal and One Second Round Draft Selection
$2,521,000 for the 2010 League Year for Right of First Refusal and One First Round Draft Selection
$3,168,000 for the 2010 League Year for Right of First Refusal And, One First Round Draft Selection, and One Third Round Draft Selection

If Cassel is tagged by the Pats, he is looking to get at least $14.6 million in new money in 2009. The difference in the aforementioned amounts speak for themselves.
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Not at all..in fact I have never wagered on a game..When one sees call non-calls go in one direction...if one really cares about a football game, one would wonder. That was an atrocious game for the officials and one HAS to wonder is it incompetence or something deeper. That the NFL refuses to really look at what is going on with officials is a total disgrace. The passion is about a sport that is great but could be even better.
Thanks. Like I said, I was just curious. And I do not at all disagree with you.
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