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Old 11-07-2008, 11:59 AM   #21
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Several of the dirty dozen are currently lying in the weeds posting less. Just wait until Cassel actually has his bad game of the season throwing 3 picks and we lose. Expect LOTS of sudden posts. I blame the fantasy Football mentality.

I'm optimistic about Sunday and the season, though concerned about our lack of health at RB and DB.
Absolutely. You can look to Maroney as an example of this. They complained about him all last season, until he shut them up at the end of the year. Then, when he was hurt and started slow this year, then went to IR, they jumped right back into it. Meanwhile, throughout the league, running backs are dropping like flies, but that gets ignored.

Of course, it's the same mentality that blames McDaniels for losing a game where Gaffney holding onto a football means the Patriots win, or blames Cassel for games where Moss doesn't come up with catchable passes. There's a name for these people, but I'd be banned if I used it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:15 PM   #22
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Obviously, I don't agree with the forecast, but I don't think that the forecast is "screwy". Obviously, many posters here think we are by far the best in our division and 2nd best the conference. It is not "screwy" for others to disagree.

The article predicts that the Bills will end 8-8, after going 3-5. Is that screwy? Fans of the Bills would probably say so.

The article predicts that the patriots with a weaker schedule will go 4-4 and the jets will go 5-3. That's wrong, but not crazy.

The writer likes Miami at this point to go 6-2. Perhaps that's nuts, and perhaps they are for real. They have had some solid games.
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Obviously, I don't agree with the forecast, but I don't think that the forecast is "screwy". Obviously, many posters here think we are by far the best in our division and 2nd best the conference. It is not "screwy" for others to disagree.

The article predicts that the Bills will end 8-8, after going 3-5. Is that screwy? Fans of the Bills would probably say so.

The article predicts that the patriots with a weaker schedule will go 4-4 and the jets will go 5-3. That's wrong, but not crazy.

The writer likes Miami at this point to go 6-2. Perhaps that's nuts, and perhaps they are for real. They have had some solid games.
It is screwy that the guy predicts that the Pats will be 7-3 next Friday and go 2-4 the rest of the way including a loss to a bad Seattle team. Where they have the Jets going 6-5 over the week after and then going 4-1 the rest of the way. That seems very screwy to me.

Maybe if they didn't have he didn't have the Pats winning the next two and the Jets losing the next two, it would make more sense. Maybe if the Jets have shown any consistency to have four wins in a row as Robinson suggests. It's not that he thinks the Pats will go 4-4 and the Jets will go 5-3 that is screwy it is his logic behind it that is.
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There's a pretty consistent group of people making the complaints week after week. It doesn't change much when the team is winning, either, because they find individual issues to complain about. Even when they are proven wrong, they just lie in the weeds and bring up the same disproved arguments time and again.
cassell is mr. field goal, after his first read its over, his stats are very misleading because they are all dinks and dunks, this will not win games if they fall behind, case in point miami, and san diego
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cassell is mr. field goal, after his first read its over, his stats are very misleading because they are all dinks and dunks, this will not win games if they fall behind, case in point miami, and san diego
The Patriots were behind against both San Francisco and St. Louis, and came back to win those games. Any other fallacies you'd like to put forth?
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This is a qood omen. I'd like to see more articles like it. Being underestimated always seems to work out pretty well for the Pats.
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cassell is mr. field goal, after his first read its over, his stats are very misleading because they are all dinks and dunks, this will not win games if they fall behind, case in point miami, and san diego
Miami was his second start of his career. If you looked at Brady after his second start of his career, you would say the guy would never be anything more than a mediocre NFL QB if that.

Anyone who thinks that Cassel is the same QB today that he was back in September, hasn't been watching many games. And he is no longer just a first read guy. He did a very good job going through his progressions and it is the reason why people are complaining he didn't throw deep to Moss. Because there were times it was clear that the play called for going deep and Cassel instead of trying to huck it down field into coverage dumped off the ball and occassionally ran with it.

Weak argument. Why not use one of the preseason games for an argument too?
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....Weak argument. Why not use one of the preseason games for an argument too?
That's Briz's job.....
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Miami was his second start of his career. If you looked at Brady after his second start of his career, you would say the guy would never be anything more than a mediocre NFL QB if that.

Anyone who thinks that Cassel is the same QB today that he was back in September, hasn't been watching many games. And he is no longer just a first read guy. He did a very good job going through his progressions and it is the reason why people are complaining he didn't throw deep to Moss. Because there were times it was clear that the play called for going deep and Cassel instead of trying to huck it down field into coverage dumped off the ball and occassionally ran with it.

Weak argument. Why not use one of the preseason games for an argument too?
there is a reason hes never started a game in college, hes shaky, cant feel the pressure, and cant throw the ball downfield accurately, his worst side has yet to come
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there is a reason hes never started a game in college, hes shaky, cant feel the pressure, and cant throw the ball downfield accurately, his worst side has yet to come
Hmmmm..... he clearly felt the pressure last week, and throw a very accurate downfield pass to Gaffney last week. As for shaky, well, that's not exactly a specific term, so there's no real sense discussing it.

Any other fallacies? That's three for you so far.

P.S. There's also a reason that he's succeeding in the NFL despite never starting a game in college. Unfortunately, that side of the equation interferes with your agenda, so you ignore it.
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