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Old 11-04-2008, 04:07 PM   #21
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There was this QB who was drafted in the 6th round a few years back, I think he went 199 in the 2000 draft - Not sure how he turned out, but I hear pretty good.

Yea, I'd say drafting is not an exact Science.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:48 PM   #22
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There was this QB who was drafted in the 6th round a few years back, I think he went 199 in the 2000 draft - Not sure how he turned out, but I hear pretty good.

Yea, I'd say drafting is not an exact Science.
But he spent a whole year on the bench first. And there are lots of examples of undrafted or low pick players who after a few years became stars.

But name another guy who as a rookie started and played most snaps on a dominant defense of an elite team, who was undrafted. When in the past 10, 20 years has this happened?
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But he spent a whole year on the bench first. And there are lots of examples of undrafted or low pick players who after a few years became stars.

But name another guy who as a rookie started and played most snaps on a dominant defense of an elite team, who was undrafted. When in the past 10, 20 years has this happened?
Well, you don't have to go far from Tommy, Adalius Thomas pick 186 in the 2000 daft.
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Well, you don't have to go far from Tommy, Adalius Thomas pick 186 in the 2000 daft.
Adalius Thomas: Career Stats

His first year he played 3 games, no tackles.

Again, there are lots of guys who developed into great players. But who was undrafted and then started immediately as a rookie on an elite team
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His first year he played 3 games, no tackles.

Again, there are lots of guys who developed into great players. But who was undrafted and then started immediately as a rookie on an elite team
Yea, heck I don't know - Jeff Saturday from the Colts was a UDFA in '99 I think. But the Colts were bad.


London Fletcher? He was a UDFA.
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London Fletcher - Washington Redskins - Career Statistics - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

London was a good guess but he only had 29 total tackles his first yr.

Jeff Saturday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saturday only started 2 games his first year.




Seriously, Gary Guyton is a freak when you look at history.
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London Fletcher - Washington Redskins - Career Statistics - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

London was a good guess but he only had 29 total tackles his first yr.

Jeff Saturday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saturday only started 2 games his first year.




Seriously, Gary Guyton is a freak when you look at history.
Guyton has 10 tackles and 0 starts
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But he spent a whole year on the bench first. And there are lots of examples of undrafted or low pick players who after a few years became stars.

But name another guy who as a rookie started and played most snaps on a dominant defense of an elite team, who was undrafted. When in the past 10, 20 years has this happened?
Ed Johnson, DT, 2007 for the Indy Colts
Will Demps, S, 2002 for the Baltimore Ravens

Honorable Mentions (players with as much playing time as Gary Guyton):

Bart Scott, LB, 2002 Ravens

The Colts of course have made use of many UDFAs on defense, but none save Nick Harper (2001) and Gary Bracket (2003) had equal playing time to Guyton, and their defenses were bottom-half of the league.
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London Fletcher - Washington Redskins - Career Statistics - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

London was a good guess but he only had 29 total tackles his first yr.

Jeff Saturday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saturday only started 2 games his first year.




Seriously, Gary Guyton is a freak when you look at history.


James Butler
Nick Harper

stats are pretty good.

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Not on Defense, but didn't Willie Parker get considerable playing time on the Steelers?

EDIT: nevermind, I thought he did his first year, but he really broke out his second year in the league

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