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Apparently you are such a rump swab that you miss the facts here...
you are talking about yards after the catch..well your binkie got TON of yards like that as well. The 54 yarder to Coles was a very short pass...the same for the 20 to Cotchery and the 28 to Stuckey..so PLEASE do not try to claim that about Favre. This WAS NOT the case Sunday..so do NOT distort the facts. Favre was embarrassing with how HE managed the game... and if you wish to take your binkie over Mr Cassel in their performance Sunday, fine, but it shows how little you know. We are talking about ONE GAME..and Cassel was king last Sunday..clearly!! Fabre is a great QB..but if he plays that way weekly, the Jets will not have many wins.
Where do you find the stats on the length of the throws? Look, Cassell dinked and dunked, just like TB before Moss came around. Kudos to the staff for the gameplan, and management of Cassell, but IMO, I don't think you can say he outplayed Fabre.
Rump Swab? Quiet, you are starting to look like a baby, who cannot handle an opposing point of view. Very unbecoming.
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how much are all of last weeks doom and gloom comments changed by Matt Cassel outplaying Brett Favre?
Someone will probably accuse you of suggesting that Cassel is a better QB than Favre, but whether it's true or not, it's irrelevent, and you're point is well taken. This was not about Cassel vs Favre, it was about team football, the Pats vs the Jets, and clearly, even with these two in the mix, the Patraiots are still the far better team.
Through the first two weeks of the 2008 season Matt Cassel is a top 10 QB in the conference by QB rating. Former USC roomate Carson Palmer ranks 32nd. That other guy he backed up at USC is riding the pine behind 87 year old Curt Warner.
Farve checks in at #9, though he was outperformed by Cassel head to head in their week 2 matchup by this metric...
Favre has scored 2 more TD's, but both came courtesy of our week 3 opponents so stay tuned. Both have been sacked a total of 5 times. In fact 6 of the top 10 rated QB's have 4 or more sacks through week 2. Four have thrown INTS. One has thrown an INT and committed 2 fumbles - I'll let you guess who. Of course another top ten'er threw two and fumbled two in last nights ratings bonanza...
Cassell may have managed the game better, which is a testament to the coaching staff. He didn't make mistakes to lose the game, but numbers wise, they were pretty close. I don't have all the stats, but it appeared as though Cassel got many of his yards from his skill position players AFTER the catch. Welker and Faulk accounted for 122 of the 163 yards. It was virtually all YAC. In contrast, Favre at least moved the ball vertically with bigger plays up field. NE was 6-14 on 3rd down conversions. Jets 6-12. NE at least GOT to the Red Zone more often, but they were 1-5 in conversions, Jets were 1-3. We will never know, but taking the ball out of your HOF qb's hands inside the 5 was dumb, dumb, dumb. Favre took that big sack late, up to that point, it was 3 sacks for Cassell, 1 for Favre. Make no mistake, there Mr. Johnson. NE OUTCOACHED the Jets, but Cassell did not outplay Favre...it is simply fact.
You seem to be ignoring the CRUCIAL int that Favre threw.
If everything else is equal as you suggest (although I think that Cassel actually played better aside from it) Cassel outplayed Favre because Favre threw the bad int.
Through the first two weeks of the 2008 season Matt Cassel is a top 10 QB in the conference by QB rating. Former USC roomate Carson Palmer ranks 32nd. That other guy he backed up at USC is riding the pine behind 87 year old Curt Warner.
Wow. That's actually pretty impressive. He's the least experienced guy on the list, too. It's a little known fact, but he's only started ONE game since high school...
Top ten W vs. L:
Ben R. - 2 wins
Kurt W. - 2 wins
Phil R. - 2 Losses
Jay C. - 2 Wins
Aaron R. - 2 Wins
Donovan M. - 1 Win, 1 Loss
Tiny Remo - 2 Wins
Trent E. - 2 Wins
Bert Favray - 1 Win. 1 Loss
Matty See, Matty Do - 2 Wins
So there are 4 losses in the top ten.
Seems like you don't have to score a billion points a game to win, eh?
But really, you probably should.
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Cassell may have managed the game better, which is a testament to the coaching staff. He didn't make mistakes to lose the game, but numbers wise, they were pretty close. I don't have all the stats, but it appeared as though Cassel got many of his yards from his skill position players AFTER the catch. Welker and Faulk accounted for 122 of the 163 yards. It was virtually all YAC.
Watch the game again. A few of Favre's passes were on the money, but many more were fluttering wounded ducks. Cassel's passes were crisp and accurate. And you gloss over the biggest reason why Favre won't cut it: Cassel didn't make mistakes to lose the game, and Favre did. Would you really rather have six or seven miraculous throws followed by one mistake that loses you the game?
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NE at least GOT to the Red Zone more often, but they were 1-5 in conversions, Jets were 1-3.
New England scored every time they went into the red zone. Even without the TD, you lost the game.
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We will never know, but taking the ball out of your HOF qb's hands inside the 5 was dumb, dumb, dumb.
So you are saying that losing 19-10 was bad, but losing 12-10 is acceptable? Maybe for you.
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NE OUTCOACHED the Jets, but Cassell did not outplay Favre...it is simply fact.
Unless Mangini was wearing Favre's jersey when he lost the game for you, Favre was indeed outplayed by Cassel. He was also pretty much outplayed by Pennington. The difference was that Favre lucked out on two Hail Mary heaves and Pennington didn't.
Your season is trashed. If you don't realize it now, you will in a couple of weeks.
Some other Jet troll came here bragging about Favre when you signed him. I said at the time, and I say it again. This is one time when I agree with Jets fans. You are glad the Jets have Favre and so am I.
He will tease you with circus throws then break your heart with bone-headed plays.
Enjoy.
Last edited by spacecrime; 09-16-2008 at 12:21 PM..
Watch the game again. A few of Favre's passes were on the money, but many more were fluttering wounded ducks. Cassel's passes were crisp and accurate. And you gloss over the biggest reason why Favre won't cut it: Cassel didn't make mistakes to lose the game, and Favre did. Would you really rather have six or seven miraculous throws followed by one mistake that loses you the game?
New England scored every time they went into the red zone. Even without the TD, you lost the game.
So you are saying that losing 19-10 was bad, but losing 12-10 is acceptable? Maybe for you.
Unless Mangini was wearing Favre's jersey when he lost the game for you, Favre was indeed outplayed by Cassel. He was also pretty much outplayed by Pennington. The difference was that Favre lucked out on two Hail Mary heaves and Pennington didn't.
Your season is trashed. If you don't realize it now, you will in a couple of weeks.
Some other Jet troll came here bragging about Favre when you signed him. I said at the time, and I say it again. This is one time when I agree with Jets fans. You are glad the Jets have Favre and so am I.
He will tease you with circus throws then break your heart with bone-headed plays.
Enjoy.
Dude, I am not a Jets fan, not a Packer fan. I just don't think Favre was outplayed. The conversions (I assume) mean TD's. Each team scored a TD inside the Red Zone. Not my stat, got it from CBS or Fox. Just reviewing game numbers to compare what each did. Cassell played well within that system. Good at hitting those short flares/screens. You know, dinks and dunks. Don't get me wrong, I think you guys will win a lot of games with him, but it won't be because he is outplaying everybody, it will be a total team effort.
Dude, I am not a Jets fan, not a Packer fan. I just don't think Favre was outplayed. The conversions (I assume) mean TD's. Each team scored a TD inside the Red Zone. Not my stat, got it from CBS or Fox. Just reviewing game numbers to compare what each did. Cassell played well within that system. Good at hitting those short flares/screens. You know, dinks and dunks. Don't get me wrong, I think you guys will win a lot of games with him, but it won't be because he is outplaying everybody, it will be a total team effort.
Colt fans usually claim stats don't lie, unless they say Brady is better than Manning...LOL
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