Interesting Bradshaw comment - New England Patriots Forums

Cartwright · 09-12-2008, 09:11 AM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...dtable:-Week-2

Here is what Terry said relative to the TB injury:

TB: "One of the biggest problems when Brady got hurt is that Tom over-strided. Normally, you don't want to stride that long. He really stepped way out. His left foot should have been back a good two feet. Easily. One of the things I learned was to throw off my right leg and keep my left leg loose. When Tom stepped like that, he really exposed his leg. He was really stretched out. There is no give in the leg when you do that. Tom's knee was locked when he took that hit and that's why he's out for the season."

Interesting take. I don't think he is being critical necessarily. Does it sound like his mechanics should have been coached differently? When you are throwing the short ball, that is one thing, but hitting the deep ball requires a qb to step into the throw, doesn't it?

***MoLewisrocks*** · 09-12-2008, 09:15 AM

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hambone1818 · 09-12-2008, 09:23 AM

I'm not sure why you linked that, Mo, that thread is related to what Carroll had to say about Cassel.

Anyway, regarding the Bradshaw comment: I was thinking the same thing when I watched the play--and had it replayed in my nightmares. The other thing that struck me, and something I haven't really seen in the media thus far, is that Brady would normally have taken a quick sidestep THEN stepped into that throw. I really think the ankle was still bothering him to a degree, and not having live action to get him into true 'game shape' he was a little bit slower in reading/reacting to the pressure.

What's done is done and we can't dwell on it, but I think the lack of preseason snaps for Brady had a profound effect on this season.

signbabybrady · 09-12-2008, 09:38 AM

I think Bradshaw's point is to show why it happened not to say there is blame. I don't think he meant that if he had been healthy he wouldn't have done it or if he had training camp he would have been in better timing or that someone taught him bad mechanics. Just that it wasa misfortunate thing that he did step like that that at the moment or he may still be here.

It seems to me that even the best mechanincs and best timing is going to still leave you vulnerable plenty of times throughout the course of a season and this time when he was vulnerable he got it in the right place (well the wrong place).

Rhodey · 09-12-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cartwright

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...dtable:-Week-2

Here is what Terry said relative to the TB injury:

TB: "One of the biggest problems when Brady got hurt is that Tom over-strided. Normally, you don't want to stride that long. He really stepped way out. His left foot should have been back a good two feet. Easily. One of the things I learned was to throw off my right leg and keep my left leg loose. When Tom stepped like that, he really exposed his leg. He was really stretched out. There is no give in the leg when you do that. Tom's knee was locked when he took that hit and that's why he's out for the season."

Interesting take. I don't think he is being critical necessarily. Does it sound like his mechanics should have been coached differently? When you are throwing the short ball, that is one thing, but hitting the deep ball requires a qb to step into the throw, doesn't it?

Regardless of what Tom should/may/not have been doing, the breakdown by Bradshaw is spot on! It really is an excellent analysis. Thanks, for that!

bostonia3333 · 09-12-2008, 09:57 AM

Excellent analysis from Bradshaw. But this was not Brady's fault. Honestly the playcalling scared the heck out of me that day, I was like, what are they doing not running the ball, Tom is gonna get beat up. We all thought Brady would ease himself into the flow of the game and the Pats would let Maroney and Morris pound the rock. The way Brady was throwing the ball in that game, you would have thought that Pats were down by 20. I'm not mad at Pollard, I'm kinda ticked at McDaniels for the ultra aggressive playcalling. Why do this against the Chiefs? You can throw the ball 8-10 times a game and still beat them. If it's Indy or SD, yeah I can totally understand opening up the pass game early and holding your breath with Brady's dropbacks.

chrisfx811 · 09-12-2008, 10:00 AM

Tiger Woods' golf season ended early because he had a tendency to really snap into his left leg as well. Different sport, different motions... just a strange similarity in the 2 best in their sports going down with bad ACLs in their lead leg.

hambone1818 · 09-12-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bostonia3333

Excellent analysis from Bradshaw. But this was not Brady's fault. Honestly the playcalling scared the heck out of me that day, I was like, what are they doing not running the ball, Tom is gonna get beat up. We all thought Brady would ease himself into the flow of the game and the Pats would let Maroney and Morris pound the rock. The way Brady was throwing the ball in that game, you would have thought that Pats were down by 20. I'm not mad at Pollard, I'm kinda ticked at McDaniels for the ultra aggressive playcalling. Why do this against the Chiefs? You can throw the ball 8-10 times a game and still beat them. If it's Indy or SD, yeah I can totally understand opening up the pass game early and holding your breath with Brady's dropbacks.

Hasn't that been the Patriots MO under BB/TB though? Throw at them what they're not expecting. Some games we've seen them open up with 8 straight running plays, others it's two straight series of passes. I see nothing wrong with opening up with some passes early to keep the Chiefs guessing--because as you said most people expected a balanced attack to start the game.

hambone1818 · 09-12-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

I think Bradshaw's point is to show why it happened not to say there is blame. I don't think he meant that if he had been healthy he wouldn't have done it or if he had training camp he would have been in better timing or that someone taught him bad mechanics. Just that it wasa misfortunate thing that he did step like that that at the moment or he may still be here.

It seems to me that even the best mechanincs and best timing is going to still leave you vulnerable plenty of times throughout the course of a season and this time when he was vulnerable he got it in the right place (well the wrong place).

I'm not sure if this was directed to my reply, but I wasn't assigning blame to anyone--least of all Brady. I don't think it can be denied that some in-game action would have better prepared him for week 1, but that wasn't something that was in the cards this year with the ankle injury. No blame on anyone, that's the way it goes some times.

signbabybrady · 09-12-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hambone1818

I'm not sure if this was directed to my reply, but I wasn't assigning blame to anyone--least of all Brady. I don't think it can be denied that some in-game action would have better prepared him for week 1, but that wasn't something that was in the cards this year with the ankle injury. No blame on anyone, that's the way it goes some times.

Not neccessarily directed at anyone but everyone who thinks his sitting a few games or the lack of attendance in offseason training was to blame. It was a fluke play that could have happended week one of the playoffs like to Palmer or week one of the season.

Some-in game action undoubtedly would have had him better prepared for week 1 but not to avoid crazy fluke play. He would have had better timing with Moss and Welker and maybe a few of the off plays we saw on that first drive wouldn't have been.