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Old 08-23-2008, 09:48 PM   #1
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- Preseason is exactly what it is....scrimmages to test out new players and get the vets back into the gel of the team.

- From the last three games, we can tell that Belichick has a lot to do before the regular season begins in 16 days. It seems he does indeed have a plan to rest the starters and keep everyone as healthy as possible.

- Just reading thru the massive posts since the first preseason game, there seems to be two types of fans on this site. Ones who believe the sky is indeed falling and we will go 0-16 this season, and the others who believe this is just preseason and we will be fine before KC on Sept 7th.


This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?

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Old 08-23-2008, 10:00 PM   #2
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- Preseason is exactly what it is....scrimmages to test out new players and get the vets back into the gel of the team.

- From the last three games, we can tell that Belichick has a lot to do before the regular season begins in 16 days. It seems he does indeed have a plan to rest the starters and keep everyone as healthy as possible.

- Just reading thru the massive posts since the first preseason game, there seems to be two types of fans on this site. Ones who believe the sky is indeed falling and we will go 0 - 16 this season, and the others who believe this is just preseason and we will be fine before KC on Sept 7th.


This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?
There are always fans who think their team is good and will do well this year, and there are always fans who think their team is falling apart at the seams.

Some fans think BB/SP know what they are doing and these fans will revise an opinion of a player if BB signs them (at least until the guy proves himself), and others believe that BB drafted the wrong guy, signed the worng FA, and will cut the wrong guys, and these people make fun of fans who think BB knows what he is doing.

Most fall somewhere in the middle of those two spectrums.
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- Preseason is exactly what it is....scrimmages to test out new players and get the vets back into the gel of the team.

- From the last three games, we can tell that Belichick has a lot to do before the regular season begins in 16 days. It seems he does indeed have a plan to rest the starters and keep everyone as healthy as possible.

- Just reading thru the massive posts since the first preseason game, there seems to be two types of fans on this site. Ones who believe the sky is indeed falling and we will go 0-16 this season, and the others who believe this is just preseason and we will be fine before KC on Sept 7th.


This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?
I would guess that most of us realize that this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players, is an elite one which will win far more games this season than it will lose. I think the "Chicken Little" angst some feel (and I have had twinges of it myself) has a lot to do with the way last season ended. I believe if we had won on the first Sunday in February few, if any, of us would be concerned about the pre-season play thus far. But that game left a lasting impression, and not a good one, which has been reinforced by what we have seen thus far in pre-season. I know that I have reacted emotionally to what I've seen in a way which is unusual for me. Typically, I'm always sure things will turn out fine no matter how badly they may be going at any given time. But the results from February 3 through today have been anything but typical for this team. I really believe a solid win on September 7 will return most of us to our former, and appropriate, frame of mind and I believe that will happen.
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I would guess that most of us realize that this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players, is an elite one which will win far more games this season than it will lose. I think the "Chicken Little" angst some feel (and I have had twinges of it myself) has a lot to do with the way last season ended. I believe if we had won on the first Sunday in February few, if any, of us would be concerned about the pre-season play thus far. But that game left a lasting impression, and not a good one, which has been reinforced by what we have seen thus far in pre-season. I know that I have reacted emotionally to what I've seen in a way which is unusual for me. Typically, I'm always sure things will turn out fine no matter how badly they may be going at any given time. But the results from February 3 through today have been anything but typical for this team. I really believe a solid win on September 7 will return most of us to our former, and appropriate, frame of mind and I believe that will happen.
Bingo--give the man a cookie. A voice of reason in the wilderness. This whole optimist vs. pessimist theme is getting tiresome, especially when alot of people seem to want to prod others into taking one extreme or the other, the OP being a good example of this.
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Bingo--give the man a cookie. A voice of reason in the wilderness. This whole optimist vs. pessimist theme is getting tiresome, especially when alot of people seem to want to prod others into taking one extreme or the other, the OP being a good example of this.
Well then I am glad I made these observations to bring out the good voice of reasons....
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Well then I am glad I made these observations to bring out the good voice of reasons....
Brilliant, good job.

This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?

I think everyone who has concerns about the Pats play this preseason thinks this team is going to go 0-16.
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Brilliant, good job.

This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?

I think everyone who has concerns about the Pats play this preseason thinks this team is going to go 0-16.
Dang chicken little's....that has been a great theme of this board in the last few weeks....
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- Preseason is exactly what it is....scrimmages to test out new players and get the vets back into the gel of the team.

- From the last three games, we can tell that Belichick has a lot to do before the regular season begins in 16 days. It seems he does indeed have a plan to rest the starters and keep everyone as healthy as possible.

- Just reading thru the massive posts since the first preseason game, there seems to be two types of fans on this site. Ones who believe the sky is indeed falling and we will go 0-16 this season, and the others who believe this is just preseason and we will be fine before KC on Sept 7th.


This is just my opinion on what is going on. What do you all think?



NJPAT26: I would agree with your 1st two sentences, and can appreciate your trying to make a point about this never-ending theme. The problem I have (to beat a dead horse for the last time I promise) is that, the way you frame it is inherently biased and leaves no room for anyone to voice a realistic opinion:

1. "Chicken littles": Team is sucking in the PS, therefore "we will go 0-16 this season

2. "All others": It's only the PS and these games mean nothing, therefore "we will be fine by KC on September 7" ........except that in your "two types of fans" proposition, this sentence would logically read [B]"therefore we will finish 16-0." So I guess that unless you're predicting 16-0, you are chicken little.

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NJPAT26: I would agree with your 1st two sentences, and can appreciate your trying to make a point about this never-ending theme. The problem I have (to beat a dead horse for the last time I promise) is that, the way you frame it is inherently biased and dishonest:

1. "Chicken littles": Team is sucking, sky must be falling, therefore "we will go 0-16 this season

2. "All others": It's only the PS and these games mean nothing, therefore "we will be fine by KC on September 7" ........hmmm, in your "two types of fans" proposition, this sentence would logically read "therefore we will finish 16-0 I guess that if you're not predicting 16-0, that makes you a chicken little.
I appreciate your criticism. Everyone needs that....and your right....I did contradict myself. I would consider myself to be a homer and want the Pats to go 16-0 everyday of the week. I was only trying to put forward my thoughts about the two types of fans in my opinion.

I want nothing more than to do win the SB this year and have one of the greatest come backs in NFL History. So GO PATS...
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What I've gotten out of preseason so far:
-- Tank Williams is out. Happily, Lynch is in, but losing Tank is a shame.
-- Welker has an injury of unknown severity. Doesn't look like a season-ending injury, though, so I'm not too concerned.
-- Neal looks like a candidate for reserve PUP. Light looks like he'll be back.
-- Osi Umenyiora has a knee injury, Jason Taylor has a sprained right knee, Peyton Manning has a knee problem that the Colts are papering over. These are the key injuries that haven't happened to the Patriots this preseason, with the exception of Tank Williams.

We won't know much about this team until Sep 14th, after the Jets. We'll know a lot more the morning after Oct 12th (Chargers). Until then, I'm a wait-and-see kind of fan. It's hard to complain about an offense that doesn't have its star QB. It's hard to complain about a defense known for scheming opponents, that isn't scheming.

That's not to say there aren't concerns. Only that the concerns we have now may not be the concerns we'll have in a few weeks.
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