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Old 01-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #1
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The Patriots in 2007 had the most prolific deep threat in NFL history in Randy Moss, who broke the all team record for regular season TD's.

That did not stop the Pats from struggling in multiple games in the playoffs that year, including the Superbowl.

Multiple posters here have noted that in the last 7 years the Patriot offense has lost big playoff games in which the offense has put up 17 or fewer points, especially by getting shut out in the 2nd half or in the 4th quarter of games.

The solution to this is not throwing money at a stud wide out. At best it would just be 2007 all over again, and will not address the original core problem(s) that result in offensive choke jobs.

The solution is looking at something a poster pointed out about Game Preparation Theory, in which playoff teams catch up to the K-Gun Patriots after more comprehensive playoff scouting.

The Patriots need to scout themselves especially on offense, in order to understand how to beat teams that make various 2nd half adjustments on them. It is NOT a talent issue, it is a play calling issue. In 2001 the Patriots had terrible receivers, but called the right play to secure the key 3rd down or make the key catch to advance a game-winning drive.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:25 PM   #2
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Remind me who were the tight ends and running backs in 2007? Ben Watson? Kyle Brady? Maroney? Sammy Morris?

How do they compare with Gronk, Hernandez, Ballard, Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead in productivity?

Randy and Wes were awesome weapons. Even they needed some help as we were fading late in the year.

Now we have lots more awesome weapons in the under-20-yard passing game and not much beyond.

The situation doesn't compare to 2007. It's not just like apples and oranges, it's like apples and fence posts.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:26 PM   #3
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A stud WR will make a difference in THIS offense. in 2007 the running game wasn't a threat at all. Ridley gives us balance. Ben Watson and Kyle Brady aren't the threat in the middle like gronk, ballard, and hernandez are. Lloyd is far better than gaffney and stallworth. with a Deep threat in our current offense we will have the ability to take advantage of every inch of the field. the problem in 07 was the fact that we RELIED on the deep throw too much. brady got killed in the superbowl waiting for moss' deep routes to develop. having a stud WR will keep the safeties from creeping up and condensing the middle of the field like we've witnessed the last 3 years.
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it made a huge difference in 07...just becasue they lost the SB by a miracle catch and with Moss as a stud that year didn't fix anything?
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Correction: a stud WR won't fix everything but it'll certainly fix some things.
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it made a huge difference in 07...just becasue they lost the SB by a miracle catch and with Moss as a stud that year didn't fix anything?
They still only scored 17 points, though. I don't think anyone can say that the offense did its job that game. The defense fell just short (mainly because of the helmet catch) of making up for the lack of execution by the offense.
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I still think a healthy Gronk is just as effective as any stud WR not named Johnson, Fitzgerald, or a small handful of others to fixing the problems we saw on Sunday.
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it made a huge difference in 07...just becasue they lost the SB by a miracle catch and with Moss as a stud that year didn't fix anything?
If Moss doesn't cut his fingernails that day he hauls in that bomb from Brady.
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What's the problem with adding one? It's not going to hurt.

I'm not saying to go out and sign a guy to a $100mil contract but I still think it could help and add another lethal element to the offense.

Plus, we gotta add some more WRs for depth any way with only Lloyd and a few PS guys signed for next year.
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it made a huge difference in 07...just becasue they lost the SB by a miracle catch and with Moss as a stud that year didn't fix anything?
Do you think Moss did all that much more than what Gronk did this year before he got injured? If Gronk wasn't injured, he was on pace for a 1,264 yard and 18 TD season even after a slow start. Moss had 1493 yard and 23 TD season. Not a huge difference.
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