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coolguy · 01-19-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SVN

I think people are underestimating the gronk factor. Yes we won last week and before without him but he is a special player and in big games against tough defenses , you need a guy you can go to. We missed him in the 49er game as well as the giants game last yr. Baltimore is a tough nosed football team so he could be missed.
Ravens have played a ton of snaps this playoffs but in a AFCCG dont think it will matter. I thought after playing 87 snaps vs colts they would get blown out in denver but they played 6 Quarters!

I disagree with this. Shane vereen when used properly, creates more of a match up problem than gronk.

Shane vereen forces the defense to respect his catching/running/and his down field running.

patsfaninpa · 01-19-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by coolguy

I disagree with this. Shane vereen when used properly, creates more of a match up problem than gronk.

Shane vereen forces the defense to respect his catching/running/and his down field running.

I think we're going to win. But, come on man! Let's be real.

SVN · 01-19-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coolguy

I disagree with this. Shane vereen when used properly, creates more of a match up problem than gronk.

Shane vereen forces the defense to respect his catching/running/and his down field running.

Respect your opinion but come on....gronk > everyone on our offense except brady. You see one game of vereen and you are giddy. I would not be surprised if he doesnt play many snaps tomorrow either.

coolguy · 01-19-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

I think we're going to win. But, come on man! Let's be real.

I love gronk................but, i love the match up problems shane vereen can bring.

JMC00 · 01-19-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by borg

Your quibbling about 2 possessions????? In a 6 quarter game??? To hold Manning to 21 points in 6 quarters is a massive accomplishment

I'm still waiting on you to reply to me in the Felger thread.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 01-19-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coolguy

I disagree with this. Shane vereen when used properly, creates more of a match up problem than gronk.

Shane vereen forces the defense to respect his catching/running/and his down field running.

Vereen has one great game last week and already he has moved ahead of Gronk in terms of more of a headache for the opposing defense and DC???

Man,I heard of the term 'what have you done for me lately',but this is ridiculous!!

There is a reason why Gronk is labeled as the best TE in the game.......

coolguy · 01-19-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SVN

Respect your opinion but come on....gronk > everyone on our offense except brady. You see one game of vereen and you are giddy. I would not be surprised if he doesnt play many snaps tomorrow either.

Have you watch seen in college?

Vereen catching ability, running style and 4.5 speed is a mismatch for all teams.

coolguy · 01-19-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Vereen has one great game last week and already he has moved ahead of Gronk in terms of more of a headache for the opposing defense and DC???

Man,I heard of the term 'what have you done for me lately',but this is ridiculous!!

There is a reason why Gronk is labeled as the best TE in the game.......

Vereen has always been this good....He's just on a patriots team with great running back depth.

NewFeep · 01-19-2013, 03:39 PM

I agree that Vereen does create nightmares for defenses when he gets put into "space". He very well could be the X factor tomorrow night.

Woodhead does it too but he doesn't have the raw speed Vereen has.

***Horace's Ivories*** · 01-19-2013, 03:40 PM

I think Hooman & Vereen compensate for about 65% of the missing Gronk Effect. So it could be alot worse - plus I think this defense is about to become "special"....